The right way to wear my TLC?

[Jackal]

Hi Guys,

first of all, I'm glad there is a new foreskinrestoration-Forum, so I want to say thanx to Ron for hosting and organising a new one. I'm still thankful to you for your invention of the TLC which is as easy as smart.

Enough claptrap .

I'm using my TLC for a longer time now, always with some breaks, but I have seen some gains. But the 'proportions' of my foreskin-status hasn't changed til now.

One of my problems is, that I have 'to much' penis shaft skin on the upperside and also to less inner foreskin there, whereas I have 'to much' inner foreskin on the underside and lesser penis shaft skin there. I also have something like a bulky lobe of inner foreskin beneath the penis head, I tried to show it on the pictures, but it was difficult to get it right. It looks somehow 'unnatural'.

So what I want is to change the 'proportions'. More inner foreskin on the upperside and more penis shaft skin on the underside. And I hope that this will lead to a rolling up or smoothening of the lobe.

So further is my question how to wear the TLC. Should I roll the whole skin in, just how much I can? Or should I just roll in the outer rim of my skin? What will/would be the effect of each method?
To make it clear what I mean, I have uploaded two pictures with different angles of rolling my whole skin in the Tugger and just the outer rim. You can see that it changes the appearance very much.

I hope you guys have some good advices or could correct me on this.

Keep up growing more skin
Jackal

[Swingshiftworker]

I really don't know what you mean by "inner foreskin" versus "penis shaft skin."

Inner foreskin usually refers to the part of the foreskin that remains hidden (on the inside) of the foreskin tube when it is rolled up the shaft of the penis towards (and eventually) over the glans. You obviously have more foreskin on the ventral (bottom side) of your penis than on the dorsal side. I do too but not as much as you do. This was probably due to the way you were cut.

FWIW, I do not believe that it is possible to grow foreskin differentially the way that you want. The Tugger just doesn't work that way. It applies even pressure to the skin that is placed between the cone and the tugger body which stimulates growth equally around the circumference of the skin. If you do not place a sufficient amount of skin between the cone and tugger body, the cone will just slip off.

However, since you have so much skin on the ventral side of your penis, my guess is that, even with skin tucked evenly round the tugger body, you would still experience more skin tension on the top side of your penis causing the promotion of greater skin growth there, which would ultimately achieve the result you want -- to even out the foreskin on the top and bottom of your penis.

In order to do that you need to wear a Tugger that fits properly. From what I can see in the photos, I do not think your Tugger is fitted properly. The skin cone looks too small because there's too much compression and wrinkling of the skin under it. I'm looking specifically at the 1st pic on the left of the 3 with the skin cone on. It just doesn't look right to me.

You should send these pics to Ron (or just ask him to look at them here) for his advice on this. Good luck!

[Huskyjerk]

In the begging I just tugged what I could. After making progress did I concern myself with perfect alignment. I understand about the way you are cut you have some frenulum on the bottom this is good for you. Just keep tugging and being consistent.

[Wolfie]

Nope, nothing wrong with it. There are many days that when I tug I get the same look in the cone. I concentrate my tug so that the point of equilibrium is what I see with the cone on. My POE is about 5mm behind the circ scar (circ scar for me is the line that differentiates inner and outer foreskin). So what that means is that I put the tugger on and pull the skin forward whilst pushing the device in so that approximately 5mm of outer skin, beyond the circ scar, is shown. This is a bit easier to do with a packer tugger; and from your pictures, you have a lot of loose skin so a packer may be good for you too.

I say this because when I get wrinkling I usually order a packer that alleviates the issue. I buy a packer increment about once a year.

[Huskyjerk]

^ I have the same POE and I find that if any inner skin shows thru the outer come it slips quickly as the innners skin much more moist all the time now.

[Jackal]

This is a bit easier to do with a packer tugger; and from your pictures, you have a lot of loose skin so a packer may be good for you too.

Could you explain me for what a "packer" is? I have seen there are 5 different types: 0, 4, 8, 16, 24... how do I know which is the right for me?
And can I use my old skin cone or do I need a new one?

[Jackal]

Could someone please explain me, what the purpose of a packer is or when I know, that I have to use one?

And, how do I find out, which size I need (0, 4, 8, 16, 24)?

[mjwise]

Packers provide a form of internal tension by pushing the glans down the skin tube and thereby creating tension on the inside of the skin tube. The TLC-X does it with displacement of the pusher.

Per the TLC web site, "TLC Packer models are described by the length (in millimeters) of the cylindrical stage, for example the P8 has an 8mm long cylindrical portion." I'm not sure of a great way to estimate what length of a packer you'd want. Just IMO, but if you really want to get into internal tensioning, a device like the TLC-X will be more cost-effective in the long run.

[parsecskin]

Packers provide a form of internal tension by pushing the glans down the skin tube and thereby creating tension on the inside of the skin tube. The TLC-X does it with displacement of the pusher.

Per the TLC web site, "TLC Packer models are described by the length (in millimeters) of the cylindrical stage, for example the P8 has an 8mm long cylindrical portion." I'm not sure of a great way to estimate what length of a packer you'd want. Just IMO, but if you really want to get into internal tensioning, a device like the TLC-X will be more cost-effective in the long run.

Absolutely! The TLC-X is the way to go, right to the end of your restoration. You may, however, want to get some selects spacers to fine tune your POE. Fine tuning doesn't need to be done until towards the end of your restoration. In the mean time.....JUST GROW SKIN!

[admin]

"TLC Packer models are described by the length (in millimeters) of the cylindrical stage, for example the P8 has an 8mm long cylindrical portion." I'm not sure of a great way to estimate what length of a packer you'd want.

Packing is what the first restorers did, over 2000 years ago. I see a packer as a way to keep up some tension when actual tugging isn't handy.

Choosing a packer length is easy if you already have a Tugger or Packer 0. Just roll skin up during application. The distance past the Tugger body that you can force your skin to reach is the nominal cylindrical length we should add to the base of your packer.

The TLC Stacker with TLC Selects is like having any Packer length available as you need it. Like, you might want a longer one during the day than you'd wear at night, or a shorter one for dancing than you'd wear sitting at a desk.