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  • Is it possible to have a pseudo frenulum if you tug the frenulum remnant or is it gone forever?

    Is it possible to have a tethering mechanism on the circumcised penis or has it been cut away forever?

  • #2
    It definitely is possible to still have part of the frenulum. I am lucky to have a lot of mine left, if not most of it.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by 4SkinGuy View Post
      Is it possible to have a tethering mechanism on the circumcised penis or has it been cut away forever?
      My frenulum remnant expanded, took on a natural inverted “V” shape, and ended up properly connected to my neo-ridged band, which completely encircles my penis just like the ridged band of an intact man does. All of this occurred without any specific action or actions on my part. I JUSt TUGGED with my T-tape apparatus. The magic of biological differentiation unexpectedly came along with the tissue expansion.

      Foreskin restoration is something that came with unexpected rewards for me. It paid off more than ever had been advertised.

      As for the tethering mechanism, I suppose that is one way that a restoration will always be deficient. The tethering will probably never be at the same exact tension as it would be if we had never been cut. However, an adjustment in the thrusting technique during sex, whether it be done consciously or unconsciously by the restored man, may result in the same amount of sexual pleasure.

      David
      World As Monkey Island


      I declared myself finished restoring with 3/4 erect coverage (CI-8.5) in 2005. I primarily used T-tape, strapping up and around my waist.
      I've participated in NORM meetings in San Diego, Los Angeles, Seattle (RECAP), and Ann Arbor, Michigan.

      Every doubt, reservation, or concern I had about my restoration was resolved by achieving additional foreskin LENGTH.....So just KOT !

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      • #4
        When you're done with your restoration it may be possible to have your frenulum re-attached up where it's supposed to be. Doesn't seem like it would be that big of a deal.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by parsecskin View Post
          When you're done with your restoration it may be possible to have your frenulum re-attached up where it's supposed to be. Doesn't seem like it would be that big of a deal.
          Surgically? Or just naturally ? I don't know if I could do surgery for that. I'm still living with parents and barely have any money of my own.

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          • #6
            My expanded frenulum is confluent with my neo-ridged band, just like an intact man's is. Absolutely no surgical touchup was needed. Submitting to any touchup surgery would have been counterproductive because it would have undoubtedly produced scarring which would have messed with my perfectly natural silky smooth result.

            David
            World As Monkey Island

            I declared myself finished restoring with 3/4 erect coverage (CI-8.5) in 2005. I primarily used T-tape, strapping up and around my waist.
            I've participated in NORM meetings in San Diego, Los Angeles, Seattle (RECAP), and Ann Arbor, Michigan.

            Every doubt, reservation, or concern I had about my restoration was resolved by achieving additional foreskin LENGTH.....So just KOT !

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            • #7
              Originally posted by 4SkinGuy View Post
              Surgically? Or just naturally ? I don't know if I could do surgery for that. I'm still living with parents and barely have any money of my own.
              Surgically of course. They already do this for intact guys who tear their frenulum. Ouch!
              Because we're talking mostly mucousal tissue, scarring would be minimal. It probably would only take 2 or 3 sutures. I just don't know if I could EVER let someone weilding a knife near my dick again. I suppose you could super glue it in place.Lol.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Science Monk View Post
                My frenulum remnant expanded, took on a natural inverted “V” shape, and ended up properly connected
                Do you have any pictures of this?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Ayowindip View Post
                  Do you have any pictures of this?
                  No, I've always have been camera shy. I've been generous at giving free peeks at the NORM meetings I've been to however, so there are others who can vouch for my progress.

                  David
                  World As Monkey Island

                  I declared myself finished restoring with 3/4 erect coverage (CI-8.5) in 2005. I primarily used T-tape, strapping up and around my waist.
                  I've participated in NORM meetings in San Diego, Los Angeles, Seattle (RECAP), and Ann Arbor, Michigan.

                  Every doubt, reservation, or concern I had about my restoration was resolved by achieving additional foreskin LENGTH.....So just KOT !

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Science Monk View Post
                    No, I've always have been camera shy. I've been generous at giving free peeks at the NORM meetings I've been to however . . .
                    Oh, I see what you're saying. Anyhow, Congratulations to you for restoring your foreskin!

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                    • #11
                      The intact frenulum only has a tethering function because the inner foreskin is all continuous with the part attached to the shaft in the groove on the underside of the glans. It's gone forever, but that only means it's not there to restrict the movement of your foreskin. The word comes from "frenum," which is Latin for "bridle," or "brake" in the modern Latin based languages.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by z726 View Post
                        The intact frenulum only has a tethering function because the inner foreskin is all continuous with the part attached to the shaft in the groove on the underside of the glans. It's gone forever, but that only means it's not there to restrict the movement of your foreskin. The word comes from "frenum," which is Latin for "bridle," or "brake" in the modern Latin based languages.

                        Can you explain further in regards to the frenulum? I was trying to figure out where everything should be. Part of the frenulum attaches to the urethra or is there supposed to be discontinuity in some places?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Frenulum2002 View Post


                          Can you explain further in regards to the frenulum? I was trying to figure out where everything should be. Part of the frenulum attaches to the urethra or is there supposed to be discontinuity in some places?
                          There's both an animated diagram and a short video at http://www.circumstitions.com/Works.html to illustrate where everything is located underneath the foreskin. The one part of the diagram that I think isn't quite correct is that the diagonal lines, indicating where the band of ridged mucosa is, should be fanned out along the entire upper surface of the glans.

                          Imagine how a foreskin would naturally attach to the penis, just under the corona. Since the corona curves upward into that groove on the underside, so does the connection to the foreskin. When the skin is retracted, the bunched up foreskin underneath the corona all still connects to that groove on the ventral side, which is what appears to be a frenulum when retracted.

                          I've seen some photos of intact penises where the frenulum goes all the way up to the urethra. I'm guessing that not everyone's glans develops the same way - some might not have as much of a cleft underneath. It all goes back to the way the genitals develop, long before birth, around 7 weeks or so into fetal development. As the penis is forming, the urethra is initially open along the entire shaft, and seals itself off moving upward, leaving a seam behind that's visible as the perineal raphe.

                          Here's a video that shows an animation of how genital differentiation works: https://www.babycentre.co.uk/v102749...l-or-boy-video (the male genitals are shown at the one minute mark). I think this one also isn't quite correct, as it shows the urethral opening at the end of the glans forming spontaneously. On an intact foreskin, the raphe goes all the way to the very tip, which would imply that the urethral hole extended upward all the way there. I'm guessing the two sides of the glans don't fuse together completely because there's already skin in the way, and that would explain how the glans is shaped on the ventral side.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by z726 View Post

                            There's both an animated diagram and a short video at http://www.circumstitions.com/Works.html to illustrate where everything is located underneath the foreskin. The one part of the diagram that I think isn't quite correct is that the diagonal lines, indicating where the band of ridged mucosa is, should be fanned out along the entire upper surface of the glans.

                            Imagine how a foreskin would naturally attach to the penis, just under the corona. Since the corona curves upward into that groove on the underside, so does the connection to the foreskin. When the skin is retracted, the bunched up foreskin underneath the corona all still connects to that groove on the ventral side, which is what appears to be a frenulum when retracted.

                            I've seen some photos of intact penises where the frenulum goes all the way up to the urethra. I'm guessing that not everyone's glans develops the same way - some might not have as much of a cleft underneath. It all goes back to the way the genitals develop, long before birth, around 7 weeks or so into fetal development. As the penis is forming, the urethra is initially open along the entire shaft, and seals itself off moving upward, leaving a seam behind that's visible as the perineal raphe.

                            Here's a video that shows an animation of how genital differentiation works: https://www.babycentre.co.uk/v102749...l-or-boy-video (the male genitals are shown at the one minute mark). I think this one also isn't quite correct, as it shows the urethral opening at the end of the glans forming spontaneously. On an intact foreskin, the raphe goes all the way to the very tip, which would imply that the urethral hole extended upward all the way there. I'm guessing the two sides of the glans don't fuse together completely because there's already skin in the way, and that would explain how the glans is shaped on the ventral side.
                            Thank You so much for the info. I was also trying to figure out, when I have an erection, I notice that my penis will involuntarily make a jump. I am trying to figure out if this is related to the fine touch receptors of the ridge band because I think I have at least some of the ridged mucosa remainder. I notice that I see these ridges that branch off my frenulum. On the right side I have ridged mucosa and the left side I have smooth mucosa, which is interesting. My circumcision is so uneven. My penis has definitely improved over the last 5 months of restoring, which is wonderful. I no longer have irritation and chafing in my underwear from a very tight circumcision.

                            Also I went to a urologist to have a checkup 2 days ago and I gave him the info of what I was doing and he was so negative and uncomfortable. It seems that whenever circumcision is brought up, every circumcised man dissociates. I was anxious that my penis may have been reattached, he said that it wasn’t, which was good news. One thing he did that I thought was strange is he pulled on the glans of my penis. It really made me anxious a day later because I did not understand why he did it. Do you have any ideas?

                            in addition one other thing that people need to know is that circumcision done in biblical times is completely different than the modern day practice. The definition of circumcision is the actual biblical circumcision, which only removed the tip of the foreskin at 8 days old. the mucous membrane would not be disturbed in the biblical circumcision because the inner epithelium is still fused to the epithelium of the glans, so the only thing removed is pat or all of the preputial sphincter muscle depending on the anatomical structures of the babies penis, which actually is the part of the foreskin that causes conditions such as phimosis and Para-phimosis. It is important to understand that the actual biblical circumcision is what circumcision entails, while the modern day practice removes as much tissue as possible. People need to understand that the modern day circumcision must be referred to as mutilation. The biblical circumcision would leave the infant at around a CI-4 to CI-5. The current practice in Judaism cuts men down to a CI-0 to a CI-1, which is a humongous difference and was a man made change, which actually violates Judaism. In the modern practice they tear the delicate tissue of the mucous membrane, which is still fused to the glans, which is incision. Also some ultra orthodox do oral suction, which is a form of eating blood, which also violates Judaism. In addition there is reference to circumcise at the hill of the foreskin, which gives people proof that the biblical circumcision entails to cut off part or all of the preputial sphincter muscle. Here is proof:


                            “You shall not make gashes in your flesh for the dead, or incise any marks on yourselves. I am the lord.” (Leviticus 19:28). Tearing the mucous membrane from glans is incision


                            “You must not eat the blood of any creature, the life of every creature is it’s blood; anyone who eats it must be cut off.” (Leviticus 17:14).


                            “And Joshua made him sharp knives, and circumcised the children of Israel at the hill of the foreskins.” (Joshua 5:3).

                            Here is a very good diagram difference showing the difference between the biblical circumcision and the modern day circumcision, in-terms of the tissue loss difference:

                            https://www.fisheaters.com/circumcision2.html

                            whether someone is in agreement or not, they need to understand that what is practiced today is mutilation because it destroys the original structure of the foreskin whereas the biblical circumcision just shortens the foreskin without destroying the function of it.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Frenulum2002 View Post
                              Thank You so much for the info. I was also trying to figure out, when I have an erection, I notice that my penis will involuntarily make a jump.
                              I have no idea what you mean by this. Could you rephrase it?

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