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  • Ok...I think i'm finally ready to commit to the journey of restoration. But I really need some guidance...

    So for a while, I was pumping. I enjoyed it not because of the size gains, but because of the skin expansion and release of tension it provided me. I grew exponentially larger, but that was because of the skin, nothing else. However, after an injury, I had to stop pumping. As a result, my skin has returned to normal. I had an awful circumcision. I have MAYBE 1" of skin left on the underside of my penis, about 1/32" of skin remaining on my right side and 1/64" remaining on my left side. The rest is pulled up pubic and scrotum skin. The top (side when looking down at it) has quite a bit normal skin (thank god). Because of this, the length has been reduced drastically and my erections are painful. In the past, people have told me I need to do the T-Tape method, as I don't have any slack skin. My only problem is really understanding how to go about doing it. How long to wear the device, how to put the device on, how to wear it discretely and live a normal life (my job is very active, I work on film sets)...I really need help. I'm sick of this. It has killed my confidence for too long and I want a normal sexual life.

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    • #3
      When you measure your skin remnant, how are you accomplishing this? Are you in an erect state and measuring the distance from the edge of your glans to the circumcision scar? What do you discern as pubic and scrotal skin? I hate these diagrams (see attached) but in the pursuit of knowledge; when looking at the circumcised illustration, you see a noticeable difference of skin coloration--are you measuring that? And is that difference in coloration what you are concluding is scrotal and pubic tissue?

      The questions arise from the statement: "The top (side when looking down at it) has quite a bit normal skin...". See, circumcisions can all look very different. From your description, it appears to be a manual job without the aid of medical devices such as the clamp. I could be wrong.

      But in any event, I am guessing that if you have much more skin on the underside, then you probably have an intact frenulum. Count yourself extremely lucky sir. As far as where to start; you said you have no slack skin--is that hard or soft? If you are soft, pull as much skin over your penis head, then use the T-Tape method, or some would advise manual methods till you can. There is a canister tugger method that can be found here: http://tlctugger.com/canister-kit/. This has worked for a lot of guys to get them going. If when soft and you can finagle your head within any remnant skin then I'd suggest going with the full out tugger: http://tlctugger.com/tlc-tugger/. We all started out with tapped methods at one point, I personally disdain them. But when you have little to play with, you gotta do what you gotta do.

      ​I am not paid by TLC tugger. In fact over the years I have owned competitor products. Each work a different way and are very effective. I accredit TLC for making a device that is simple, and effective, and the only reason why I have stuck to this for 10 years.

      Take it easy Botchedcirc. This is going to be a long haul for anyone. I hoped that this helped a little. If it didn't then let me know what else I can help with.

      KOT
      Wolfie



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      • #4
        Originally posted by Wolfie View Post
        When you measure your skin remnant, how are you accomplishing this? Are you in an erect state and measuring the distance from the edge of your glans to the circumcision scar? What do you discern as pubic and scrotal skin? I hate these diagrams (see attached) but in the pursuit of knowledge; when looking at the circumcised illustration, you see a noticeable difference of skin coloration--are you measuring that? And is that difference in coloration what you are concluding is scrotal and pubic tissue?

        The questions arise from the statement: "The top (side when looking down at it) has quite a bit normal skin...". See, circumcisions can all look very different. From your description, it appears to be a manual job without the aid of medical devices such as the clamp. I could be wrong.

        But in any event, I am guessing that if you have much more skin on the underside, then you probably have an intact frenulum. Count yourself extremely lucky sir. As far as where to start; you said you have no slack skin--is that hard or soft? If you are soft, pull as much skin over your penis head, then use the T-Tape method, or some would advise manual methods till you can. There is a canister tugger method that can be found here: http://tlctugger.com/canister-kit/. This has worked for a lot of guys to get them going. If when soft and you can finagle your head within any remnant skin then I'd suggest going with the full out tugger: http://tlctugger.com/tlc-tugger/. We all started out with tapped methods at one point, I personally disdain them. But when you have little to play with, you gotta do what you gotta do.

        ​I am not paid by TLC tugger. In fact over the years I have owned competitor products. Each work a different way and are very effective. I accredit TLC for making a device that is simple, and effective, and the only reason why I have stuck to this for 10 years.

        Take it easy Botchedcirc. This is going to be a long haul for anyone. I hoped that this helped a little. If it didn't then let me know what else I can help with.

        KOT
        Wolfie


        So sorry for the extremely late response on this. The holidays made life a bit crazy.

        The issue is that on the sides of my shaft, Hair travels up directly to the scar. My fear of using something like the TLC is that it will be reproducing non-shaft skin and instead pubic skin. I also need to build up slap skin in order to even try the TLC. I have nothing against it and actually would prefer it, as my lifestyle doesn't really allow me to use a T-tape.

        I am measuring in an erect state from the scar to the hair follicles that travel up the sides of my shaft.There is also a clear loss in size, as you can see that pubic skin is being stretched. There is no real indication of where the shaft meets the body or not, which shows me it is drawing up skin and it has been buried a bit inside of it.

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          I am a hairy guy. I have hair all the way to the scar also. I have used the tlc from the beginning of my restoration and I am very pleased. Just tug it will be worth it.

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            Originally posted by botchedcirc View Post
            The issue is that on the sides of my shaft, Hair travels up directly to the scar. My fear of using something like the TLC is that it will be reproducing non-shaft skin and instead pubic skin.
            Are you a "grow-er" or a "show-er?"

            If you are a grow-er, like I am (mine expands from less than 2" flaccid to 6" erect), the hair on your shaft is simply more likely to extend farther up your shaft because you have less "shaft" to begin with. In my case, the hair on my shaft goes up to w/in 1/4th inch of my circ scar when flaccid and w/in 1" when erect. Just to be clear, there are only a few follicles that high up; most are lower down the shaft.

            In any event, that's why a lot of grow-ers have a mass of hair surrounding the shaft of their penis as well as their pubis, which in some cases almost entirely obscures seeing the penis while flaccid. That's also the reason I removed all of my shaft and public hair using laser hair treatment. My penis looked small enough while flaccid and I didn't need the hair to obscure it further.

            However, if you tug or use any other kind of restoration device, you do not need to worry that anything except additional foreskin will be created. Some of that skin may include hair follicles but no skin from your scrotum or anywhere else, except from the upper edge of your penis where the remnants of your foreskin begin/end, will be created.

            I've been tugging for more years than I care to mentioned and have made a lot of progress. Enough to get full coverage of my glans if I pull my skin over it but still not enough so that it retains full coverage w/o stretching. However, never in that time have I grown anything other than more foreskin (or shaft skin, if you will).

            So, you really don't need to worry about it.
            Last edited by Swingshiftworker; 01-01-2016, 01:28 PM.

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              Originally posted by Huskyjerk View Post
              I am a hairy guy. I have hair all the way to the scar also. I have used the tlc from the beginning of my restoration and I am very pleased. Just tug it will be worth it.
              So does it just extend the hairy skin?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Swingshiftworker View Post

                I've been tugging for more years than I care to mentioned and have made a lot of progress. Enough to get full coverage of my glans if I pull my skin over it but still not enough so that it retains full coverage w/o stretching. However, never in that time have I grown anything other than more foreskin (or shaft skin, if you will).

                So, you really don't need to worry about it.
                I'm a grower. Ok, but with the TLC, if I put the skin under the cone and there is hair on it, and if the scrotum and pubic skin have been pulled up high, doesn't that mean I may not restore proper skin?

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                • #9
                  Botchedcirc, if you want to try t-tape an illustrated guide is available. Google "t-tape instruction book v1.0". You should get a .pdf from searching that.

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                  • #10
                    If you are concerned about hair and want to minimize that possibility, manual or taping methods may work best because they allow you to be the most precise in where tension is applied. for example, when I began, I had about 1/4 inch of inner skin. By using tape, I could minimize the amount of tape on my skin, thus (potentially at least) maximizing tension on the skin that I wanted to grow. Here is the method I used until recently:

                    http://www.restoringforeskin.org/ima...llustrated.pdf

                    You will note that one can easily see where the tape is applied in relationship to the scar. Manual also allows you to be precise in where you apply tension.

                    That said, our ability to grow some skin and not adjacent areas is not a sure thing, so even with the best intentions, you may find hair on your skin when you are finished. Most likely the hair will be more spread out than it was before you restored, as we do not see hair follicles multiplying due to restoration. And, there are a number of ways to remove hair, so I would suggest it is better to restore and have hair than not restore.

                    Regards
                    Last edited by greg_b; 01-06-2016, 05:52 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by botchedcirc View Post
                      I'm a grower. Ok, but with the TLC, if I put the skin under the cone and there is hair on it, and if the scrotum and pubic skin have been pulled up high, doesn't that mean I may not restore proper skin?
                      In my experience, new foreskin only grows from the skin tucked under the tugger cone.

                      Doesn't matter that the scrotal/pubic skin in pulled taught in the process. For a grower, there is no way to avoid this. In my case, my scrotal skin starts about midway up the flaccid length of my penis. So obviously, the scrotal skill will be pulled taut while tugging but I've seen no evidence of scrotal skin growth as a result of this; only foreskin growth.

                      The only thing that I make sure to do is roll over the circ scar so that it is hiden between the cone and the body of the tugger, so that the tension is focused on the inner and outer skin below. This results in EVEN growth of inner and outer skin from this focal point around the edge of the foreskin below the circ scar. This is also why I do NOT believe that it is possible to grow more inner than outer skin; both grow equally when tugging.

                      As a result, the hair on your shaft will NOT grow higher up the shaft that it already is. It hasn't done so in my experience. The location of my circ scar and the leading edge of the hair follicles on my my shaft has remained constant (has NEVER changed) and the only growth that has occured has only been from the point of tension under the tugger cone. So much so that I can now stick a finger 3" down the inside of my foreskin when my penis is flaccid.

                      So, my advice to you is NOT to worry about it. Just keep on tugging. Good luck!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by botchedcirc View Post

                        So does it just extend the hairy skin?
                        The relative position of the hairy skin on your shaft will NOT change with tugging; it will always remain the same. See my longer response to botchedcirc on this topic immediately above.

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