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  • Restore or wait for Foregen?

    Foregen is scheduled to release in 2020. Restoring takes many years, however, while Foregen is looking promising imo, it is not guaranteed to succeed.

    I'm currently Ci-3, the most time consuming stage. But having alot of emotional issues from this, would it be in my best interest to just try manual to gain more skin, or do you think at this point it could be a waste of time for me to start up again?

  • #2
    I wouldn't hold my breath for Foregen. I certainly wouldn't want to be among the first if they did actually do what they claim to have done. Better KOT.

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    • #3
      Think about it this way. We don't know when Foragen will be ready for prime time, but I highly doubt it will be ready by then. It needs to first be tried on experimental populations, to see if it works. It needs to be proven that the results are as good as you can get with our current techniques. And, the cost has to be determined. Plus, we don't know if insurance will cover it, and if it costs a lot, that will be important. So lots of uncertainty.

      WE also do not know if restoring will have any negative effect on getting foragen treatment. I have seen nothing that suggests this, nor can I think of any reason why it would.

      So, you can wait, and if you are lucky, it will come on line in some unknown number of years, hopefully less than the number of years you would have been restoring, and you will have it done and be as happy as if you had restored.

      Or, you can restore now, and if foragen comes on line before you are restored, then you can get it done and hopefully be as happy as if you had restored.

      But, if you choose to wait, and it takes say, 20 years to prove that foragen is as good as what we are doing now, then you will have missed a lot of good times with better sexual feeling and function.

      I see no downside to restoring now. You have to sort out how you feel.

      Regards

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      • #4
        The answer's easy: restore. Here's why:

        1. The actual, real, existing, in-hand science that is specific to "foreskin" doesn't exist. It's not real, not in-hand. It isn't there yet, hasn't been invented yet, nobody's come close to it yet, so it isn't somewhere sitting on a bench, here or in any other country (you're sending money to Italy, you know).

        2. And if some research group does come up with something someday, which is associated with "foreskins" in some way (NOT actual foreskins, but something maybe roughly similar, like toupees are, to real hair, some sort of "less-than" bio prosthesis), then whoever is backing them will have to apply to the Feds in this country (US) to have that dream-world science approved, so it can be put in an en vivo experimental form. Minimum of 10 to 20 years just for the application and approval.

        3. If it's approved (no guarantee it will be) then clinical experimentation will be conducted (another 10 to 15 years easily), and if things actually work rather than fail outright (no guarantee it will be seen as an acceptable risk to the patient, AND THERE WILL BE RISKS), then it will need another 10 years of demonstrated success.

        4. And then there needs to be another 10 years for a commercial company buy the rights (and not sit on them until they see a potential market) and to apply to the Feds, to put "something" into kit form, so a typical plastic surgeon can access it for patients. Patients will pay for it out of pocket. Thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars. Medical insurance carriers will never pay for it.

        5. So.....give it 35 to an easy 50 years, and that's only, ONLY if somebody comes up with ANYTHING associated with "foreskins" that is legitimately workable, and looks more or less like a foreskin, because........nobody has that yet. And remember, the list of scaffold-seeded tissues for critically needed bio structures is quite long already. "Foreskins" are NOT on that list; not on anybody's list.

        So here's the thing: ...There's the real world we all live in, and then there's the promised world; the world of the "future", or "someday". Of course we live in the real world, and that "we" includes you and me. It will always include you and me. So you can see that vague, meaningless words like "release" have no effect, no reality in the real world, they only live in the promised world. In fact, you would have to know nothing about the processes involved to even use that word.

        But! .......... do you know what does have meaning in our real world? Real shaft skin, and real mucosa, all of which comes from you, personally, naturally, your own living tissues, with no scaffold needed, no surgery needed, no risks of infection and necrosis, no need for life-long dangerous anti-rejection drugs. And the results from the associated techniques will offer an actual SENSATION INCREASE from UN-DISRUPTED/UN-SEVERED NERVES! Damn! Sounds almost too good to be true. ()

        YOU, sitting there reading this, can get that SOON; far sooner than 35 to 50 years, for almost no, or any, cost.

        Guess how.
        Last edited by Reality; 04-18-2017, 03:17 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by LetsGrow View Post
          Foregen is scheduled to release in 2020. Restoring takes many years, however, while Foregen is looking promising imo, it is not guaranteed to succeed.

          I'm currently Ci-3, the most time consuming stage. But having alot of emotional issues from this, would it be in my best interest to just try manual to gain more skin, or do you think at this point it could be a waste of time for me to start up again?
          I'm pretty sure that I've grown more human skin in the last year and a half than foregen has...because they still haven't grown any, and I have coverage. I didn't have to fly anywhere or have needles or scalpels anywhere alarmingly close to my penis, and my investment is only a few hundred dollars versus the $$$ you will pay ??? years from now. You make the call...the years will pass whether or not you restore, so why not put the time to good use?
          Visit my restoration progress journal.

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          • #6
            I don't think it's one or the other. I admit if I knew for a fact that Foregen would be available within 5 years and it would be available to me at an affordable amount of money I'd stop restoring and would enjoy not having to tug or think as much about it.. But we don't have that guarantee. I would think that with some restored skin they can simply work over it. I guess the absolute worst case scenario would be they'd have to recirc us which would be awful, but then be able to attach the new one right after that. But Foregen has been around for a while. It seems like a pipe dream but I really really hope they can change the world and make regeneration happen.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by parsecskin View Post
              And then there needs to be another 10 years for a commercial company buy the rights (and not sit on them until they see a potential market) and to apply to the Feds, to put "something" into kit form, so a typical plastic surgeon can access it for patients. Patients will pay for it out of pocket. Thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars. Medical insurance carriers will never pay for it..
              I wouldn't be so sure about. There're a lot of cases when women get their insurance to put implants in their breast and the medical reason is psychological discomfort. WTF, dude, dog, common.
              I strongly recommend to get a consultation of insurance specialists here, forexample General

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              • #8
                Just watched a video about foregen. That is a really cool concept, but will not be affordable to the masses (especially those of us in the 3rd world) for ages. Best to just KOT...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by [email protected] View Post

                  I wouldn't be so sure about. There're a lot of cases when women get their insurance to put implants in their breast and the medical reason is psychological discomfort. WTF, dude, dog, common.
                  I strongly recommend to get a consultation of insurance specialists here, forexample General
                  At least get who you quote right, "dude".

                  I wrote what you quoted, not parsec, and you being that wrong explains why the rest of your post makes no sense either. Wait........did you figure out how to bypass your parent's keyboard lock again? Ooooo, they're gonna be mad.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Reality View Post

                    At least get who you quote right, "dude".

                    I wrote what you quoted, not parsec, and you being that wrong explains why the rest of your post makes no sense either. Wait........did you figure out how to bypass your parent's keyboard lock again? Ooooo, they're gonna be mad.
                    No shit! WTF? Fake news. He must work for CNN. Misquoting, taking things out of context and all. Lol.

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