This is why I stopped restoring.

[nvm12]

Because I can't get laid anyway! So what's the point? I might as well not have a penis altogether...

I'm 24 years old. I restored for maybe a month a few years ago, then thought, "I can never get laid anyway, so why bother?" The only times I've had sex were when I paid for it. I've never had a girlfriend before. I've never even kissed a girl. And most importantly: It's NOT by choice. I repeat, NOT by choice. Yes, it exists, and it's called "involuntary celibacy," and I'm involuntarily celibate. I've always been. I'm so depressed because of it I'm even considering suicide.

I've been wanting to post this for a while, since I used to post here under a different username. Is anyone experiencing this? Is anyone here actually incel (involuntarily celibate)?

[Swingshiftworker]

FWIW, I think that deciding to restore and it's "benefits" -- physical and/or psychological -- are entirely independent of whether you can get laid -- voluntarily or not.

If you choose not to restore just because you can't get laid, that's your choice, but restoring can (as it does for me) make masturbation feel better after you're grown enough skin to get that "rolling" action and, it can (at least for some) also improve your feeling of self-confidence and self-worth by making your dick look more "natural" and your body "whole" again. So, IMO, there are other reasons to restore than just to get laid.

[admin]

I'm married but since a recent report says to ejaculate daily for prostate health, looks like a measurable share of my sex life will involve no partner, and restoring has made that mode a lot better, in addition to what happens a several times a week with my wife. http://tlctugger.com/benefits-of-foreskin-restoration/

I think when people want companionship they should first figure out what they are passionate about, then set forth to pursue those passions, and wherever that takes them they will find like-minded people. The intactivist movement is not a dating service but people do hook up so get on Facebook and start networking about how to end child circumcision. Also, when you're hoping to meet someone the second most important thing is to make sure the people you know are aware that you're looking. (The first is to know and love yourself).

[Allie2k14]

Hi,
I second previous posters, restoration so far has improved my sex life both with my couple and with myself.

I've been restoring for 2 years now and the benefits I've obtained are clear:
* gliding action - no more need for lube while masturbating, no need for so much saliva in oral sex
* improved sensitivity - no more 'dry stick' feeling and a complete new pleasure experience
* coverage and natural look - although my coverage is still transient, it's a pleasure to feel that my glans is covered while sitting or wearing my boxer-briefs.
* many others I may forget

So, my advise is: start tugging again and be committed to it. You won't regret, independently of wether you finally get laid.

Regards

[Galt]

Hi nvm12,

I don't plan on posting here much (too much computer time - this may even by my only post), but I'm in the same boat. By the way, even paid sex "counts" so technically you DID lose your virginity. I hope that my empathy makes you feel less alone, but I'm probably not qualified to offer you any help personally since I'm stuck too. However, I can tell you some things that have opened my eyes to the realities of dating.

Mark Manson has a book out there that highlights what he calls sexual shame. It's a common hangup. Here's a related article: http://postmasculine.com/sexual-shame/comment-page-1 The full book is called 'Models: Attract Women with Honesty' (Ron, I hope this link is allowed - I'm just a fan of the book). He used to have an online course too. Maybe he still does. I thought the course was just okay. Opinions vary.

Maybe a good sex therapist could help if he really clicks with you. Please don't hurt yourself over this.

Best,
Galt

[Tony]

Have you tried Tinder?

[LostHisTail]

Hi there. While I don't agree not having a sex partner is a valid reason not to restore, I can definitely empathize with your situation.

In my opinion your best course of action is to join and participate in a forum dedicated to self-improvement and getting better with women. In my opinion the best one dedicated to that purpose is GoodLookingLoser. Also, an excellent blog that discusses how to get better with women is AbsoluteAbility. Have fun on your journey. Cheers.

[nvm12]

Hi nvm12,

I don't plan on posting here much (too much computer time - this may even by my only post), but I'm in the same boat. By the way, even paid sex "counts" so technically you DID lose your virginity. I hope that my empathy makes you feel less alone, but I'm probably not qualified to offer you any help personally since I'm stuck too. However, I can tell you some things that have opened my eyes to the realities of dating.

Mark Manson has a book out there that highlights what he calls sexual shame. It's a common hangup. Here's a related article: http://postmasculine.com/sexual-shame/comment-page-1 The full book is called 'Models: Attract Women with Honesty' (Ron, I hope this link is allowed - I'm just a fan of the book). He used to have an online course too. Maybe he still does. I thought the course was just okay. Opinions vary.

Maybe a good sex therapist could help if he really clicks with you. Please don't hurt yourself over this.

Best,
Galt

Wow... Well I do post on another forum dedicated to people that are struggling like myself, but I didn't expect to meet one here. Well good to know we are everywhere, lol. Thank you for the response. Though I don't believe anyone needs a course about how to get a girl, this should come naturally, and is just not happening for me. Perhaps I'm really super unattractive, but I'm not ugly, so I don't understand why women simply don't want me.

[nvm12]

I'm married but a measurable share of my sex life involves no partner, and restoring has made that a lot better, in addition to what happens with my wife. http://tlctugger.com/benefits-of-foreskin-restoration/

I think when people want companionship they should first figure out what they are passionate about, then set forth to pursue those passions, and wherever that takes them they will find like-minded people. The intactivist movement is not a dating service but people do hook up so get on Facebook and start networking about how to end child circumcision. Also, when you're hoping to meet someone the second most important thing is to make sure the people you know are aware that you're looking. (The first is to know and love yourself).

Hi Ron. Thank you for responding to my thread. I already pursue my passion, and this adds to my frustration, as I don't really hate myself and I do follow my passions, yet women are still not attracted to me. Seriously I don't know what's so repulsive about me that I still haven't so much as even kissed a girl by age 24. Also, people I know are aware that I'm looking and struggling and how much it hurts me, yet they don't help me. I can understand that as it's not their job to find me a partner. I don't think the Facebook idea is going to work since I live in Israel, and I don't think there are any intactivists on the Facebook page from Israel, let alone female intactivists.

[nvm12]

Hi there. While I don't agree not having a sex partner is a valid reason not to restore, I can definitely empathize with your situation.

In my opinion your best course of action is to join and participate in a forum dedicated to self-improvement and getting better with women. In my opinion the best one dedicated to that purpose is GoodLookingLoser. Also, an excellent blog that discusses how to get better with women is AbsoluteAbility. Have fun on your journey. Cheers.

Well those forums are to get better with women. I can't even start with women, and women don't even want me as it's always been rejection for me. I already post on a support forum for people in my case. Thank you for the suggestion though.

[nvm12]

Have you tried Tinder?

No, it won't work where I live. I've tried OkCupid for a short while though, and then quit a few weeks later, because the only two girls who bothered responding stopped responding after the first message, and it's just frustrating. I'll have to get back eventually if I still fail to meet a girl in real life, as it will be my only and final option then. If it indeed does work, then I'll have to move to another city just so I can have a girlfriend, because I live in such a remote (and religious) place in Israel. There are literally no people from my town or even close to it on the website. There are no people from my religion either, but that doesn't matter to me as I'm not religious, but I'm afraid it would matter to the women there.

[Rust]

I have my own women issues so I feel you there

but

you should be restoring for yourself! there's so much pleasure to gain from doing it!
personally, masturbating is 100x more enjoyable compared to pre-restoration jackin'.

[admin]

I don't think there are any intactivists on the Facebook pages from Israel, let alone female intactivists.

There are.

[deja_ale]

Not that I know what is causing your involuntary celibacy, and you have probably researched it a lot already to resolve the issue for yourself. But, you may want to look into the No Fap movement. Many men report changes that effect their mental state, resolving erectile dysfunction problems, changes in self-esteem and self-perception, and and how they interact with women.

[jahpunk]

I wish you luck nvm12. If you can, get out oh Israel! The damned modern day apartheid and the original baby mutilators...is that even an option to leave? I'm serious nvm12 I've visited, and though the women are beautiful, warm hearted doesn't seem like their style, especially for someone who, you say you are happy or following your passion but you sound unhappy. Those are ball busting military females bro--if you think looks aren't the problem, what is? I think you don't realize how many women feel like you and are searching endlessly for a man. Anyhow I agree about restoration being for you first. And also I think it is truly about resonating contentment. If you seem uncontented, women can feel that. And if not getting laid makes you unhappy then you won't ever be happy because the true happiness is inside...anyhow you sound smart so you know that. Just get to at least tel aviv so you can see there's many women just as desperately needing someone as you! Besides bro you're only 25! Lots of life changes after that. Have fun! Don't end it all, you only barely have scratched the surface of what life is!