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    hi everyone. I was circumcised at birth through ignorance and vanity, and at 35 I've decided I deserve to feel and look the way I was meant to.

    anyway, I've been restoring for about a month now and I'm wondering how many hours per day other guys are tugging. And also, how much is the amount of tugging related to rate of growth (is there diminishing returns)?

    I've worked up to using my DTR for about 7hrs/day and retain with an o-ring when not, unless I'm sleeping.

    Thanks!

  • #2
    Jesus fucking Christ was that ever unhelpful and condescending. Thank you for making my first interaction here a friendly one!

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    • #3
      Hi Endrnce

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      • #4
        Hi [email protected]
        firstly, welcome to the community and well done for finding the courage to start restoring. I’m so sorry that you’ve just had such an unfortunate first experience of condescending, preaching idiocy in response to what was a perfectly reasonable question- sadly certain individuals seem to get some kind of rise out of REPEATEDLY berating people in a bizarre, pedantic, lecturing manner throughout this platform. Ignore the sad douches.

        I guess there isn’t a hard & fast rule, it depends on what method/ device you’re employing, what your daily work/leisure routine will allow and what your body is telling you feels a comfortable level of tug.
        The skin needs at least part of a day off to “build” new skin. I started off manually tugging first thing in the morning and in the evening while watching TV or whatever, as soon as I had enough slack to use a TLC-X I began to wear it during the day, virtually every day, then with a shoulder strap during the evening (and sometimes for part of the night, removing it and leaving it off until the next morning). I’ve made good progress from a Ci- 2 to a 4 recently. Just be mindful not to overdo the tension with such devices- you don’t want to be feeling an aching pinching or bruising anywhere from excessively trapping and stressing the skin... I hope this helps, all the best with your endeavours...!

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        • #5
          8-10 hours per day is what I try to do, but I second everything Rico said.

          Good luck, dude

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          • #6
            I tug for 20 minutes a day. Progress is good.

            My experience indicates that the amount of tension is far more important than the time under tension. That seems well supported by manual restorers.

            Regards

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            • #7
              As someone who also got a"warm welcome" from old Reality, I'll go ahead and tell him to fuck off for you.
              Fuck off Reality... Go get you some anger management classes because you really need them.

              As for tugging time, that's something you can only figure out by experimentation. Foreskin restoration is a sport for people who like to tinker. Everyone has their own secret to success... Some guys tug all day, others just for a few minutes. Read a lot, watch videos if you can find em, shop for devices, and whatever you feel good about, try it out. I think feeling good about your routine is the true secret, because feeling good makes you consistent, and staying consistent is the most important part of restoration.

              I'm still experimenting myself. I am making progress, but it's disappointingly slow so far. I've had the best results with manual methods and hard (but not *too* hard) tension... But I feel like things are still going slower than they could be. I'll post about it if I find a method that produces satisfying results...

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              • #8
                Reality, are you drunk? I think you need some "professional" help. Oh wait, you ARE "professional" help. Go help yourself!
                Lighten up Francis. Don't be such a DOUCHE!

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                • #9
                  While I don't think Reality provides a whole lot of hard factual information, I think he does a good job in letting people know that there is no hard factual information. Which is also important to know.

                  Tbh, this forum's existence is practically useless for anything other than motivation and basic, nonscientific advice. So having someone around to help reiterate that can be useful, albeit slightly bothersome.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by mattsprofile View Post
                    While I don't think Reality provides a whole lot of hard factual information, I think he does a good job in letting people know that there is no hard factual information. Which is also important to know.

                    Tbh, this forum's existence is practically useless for anything other than motivation and basic, nonscientific advice. So having someone around to help reiterate that can be useful, albeit slightly bothersome.
                    I like that Reality shares his knowledge and opinions... I just don't like his attitude. Ripping into newbies who haven't learned the ropes yet is totally uncalled for.

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                    • #11
                      Hence why I throw some hard factual evidence with sources listed under my posts as references... Reality throws them under the rug because he has all this experience... his experience, whatever it may be (what do you do that we can trust your "professional" opinion??) which is GOOD (you're welcome, Reality) needs to be tamed and bring it back a little bit and not be so "in-your-face-WRONG" style.

                      I think he does a good job in letting people know that there is no hard factual information. Which is also important to know.
                      I also think this statement is false. In another thread (link below), I posted a couple articles that suggest evidence to stimulate certain cellular molecules (with resources). I hope other people as they accumulate valuable articles and websites to list them when telling someone information.

                      Thread: https://foreskinrestoration.vbulleti...or-5-yrs/page2

                      Seriously, everyone has a different perspective based on their knowledge and I think his take on things is just as valid as yours. Some things we ALL say can come out a little smoother (some more than others), but...

                      Tbh, this forum's existence is practically useless for anything other than motivation and basic, nonscientific advice.
                      I would like to hope that is NOT true as the reason (at least) I am here to find at least mild evidence (I hope I'm not in the wrong place for that) to further and make my restoration more effective. Start throwing sources at the bottom of your posts as some people may be genuinely interested in your research if you have any.

                      Lets put this bickering and BS in the past and lets start to make a move to FINDING factual information instead of using these threads to bitch about who dislikes who and why...

                      Keep on tugging, gentlemen.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by mattsprofile View Post
                        While I don't think Reality provides a whole lot of hard factual information .........

                        .......,Tbh, this forum's existence is practically useless for anything other than motivation and basic, nonscientific advice. So having someone around to help reiterate that can be useful, albeit slightly bothersome.

                        Well........let's see: not a "lot of hard factual information". I know that you are trying to be "nice", but let's look at the .... uh......Reality of it. Does the fact that most questions and posts here are about tugging, on which there is NO ACTUAL HARD FACT INFORMATION AVAILABLE have any effect on what I post? Jesus. I'm gonna say yeah. What do you guys think?

                        But otherwise, if you go through the 20 pages of posts showing on this site, here's what you get, and this is ONLY IN THIS SECTION (which means, this list is not the full list of the links I've provided to this site. Not by a long shot):



                        http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/480071_5

                        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2846285/


                        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...021/figure/F2/

                        https://www.sciencenews.org/blog/gor...ither-rest-you


                        https://foreskinrestoration.vbulleti...-restored-skin


                        http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-c...e/ovc-20259051


                        https://askabiologist.asu.edu/content/cell-division


                        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3758413/


                        Like this, for instance: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2064110/

                        https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-3...s#side-effects



                        "I truly think that recognition of what we do (or have done), ie stimulate natural physiological responses (skin expansion, the return of mucosal function), can add to the legitimacy of restoration as a treatment, if you will, for some of the losses suffered from circumcision. The losses are real. Restoration as a partial treatment, is real, and it's too easy for those familiar with skin expansion to criticize restoration as a fringe fetish when it's represented by myth rather than fact.”
                        https://philosophy.stackexchange.com...ered-a-science

                        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...C4768423/#CR34


                        http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supple...onylmethane%29


                        http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11896744

                        https://www.google.com/patents/US4477469


                        https://www.huffingtonpost.com/vanes...b_4168587.html

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotion

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatty_alcohol

                        https://www.huffingtonpost.com/vanes...b_4168587.html

                        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15457029)

                        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2835894/

                        The prose above is from me, as an answer to why I think it's important to address all of the bullshit that shows up here, from the social media, "we're all one big happy family" types who take any sort of answer to their crap as "condescending". It is, from where they come from; they are here to chatter, and they expect the real world to stay the fuck away. Well guess what, it won't. I'd suggest if most of you ever find yourself in the real world, run, 'cause they'll getcha. And just to mention, when I linked some of this, I got name-called, because you social media types can't come up with anything else but name calling. That's the world you live in.

                        And to address your second idea, mattsprofile, you can see that I agree with it in part: "support", which takes the form of social media-think and style (kiss, kiss), and otherwise, "non scientific advice" IN THE FORM OF BOGUS "SCIENCE", when it's only internet bullshit, and can be potentially risky.


                        So, here is my partial list of links, most of them from actual scientific research, and some from popular media because the information is SO basic that, it's even known by those guys. But not many here, and that is sad.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by mattsprofile View Post
                          While I don't think Reality provides a whole lot of hard factual information, I think he does a good job in letting people know that there is no hard factual information. Which is also important to know.

                          Tbh, this forum's existence is practically useless for anything other than motivation and basic, nonscientific advice. So having someone around to help reiterate that can be useful, albeit slightly bothersome.
                          All you have to do is go back through the 20 pages of just this section, to see who has contributed link after link of "hard facts". Some twenty or so links with actual "hard" information. More, in other sections. So I have to think that you wouldn't recognize a "hard fact" if it ass-bitcha. In fact you've demonstrated you wouldn't.

                          And in fact, no one else has done as many, as pertinent, and as informative. So I have to ask, what's your alternative? "Science" Monk and his precum and urine fetish? I know none of this is important to you, you social media types are here for the chatter, I get that. Can't miss it, in fact, you stink the place up with your defensive"conversation" about issues you don't understand. But what you don't get is that there are many readers of this website. And what you guys don't have a fucking clue about, is that there is a message here on this website, for those same interested people, who can derive benefit from the practice of tugging. Don't think so?

                          Here again is what I posted about it (and my raison d'etre for posting at all):

                          "I truly think that a recognition of what we do ..., ie stimulate natural physiological responses to effect skin expansion and the return of mucosal function, has the ability to add to the legitimacy of restoration as a treatment, if you will, for some of the losses suffered from circumcision. The losses are real. Restoration as a partial treatment is real, and it's too easy for those people familiar with skin expansion to criticize restoration as a fringe fetish when it's represented by fetishists, myth and chatter, rather than a reference to physiological fact.”

                          Now tell me, you got somethin' similar? No, you don't. There's another hard fact for ya, and needless to say, you won't anytime soon, or ever, 'cause it takes work and education, and a view of the complete journey required for a finished restoration.

                          So again: chatter away (it isn't my website), but this site isn't for just you; you and your chatter-level posts based in a petty, self-focused view, where counterpoint and information is seen as "condescending" because not only are you not used to actual give-and-take discussion, you don't really have any "give" to give (and you know that's true). This site is also about me and my type, and what we know to be true. All you have is the social chatter, your expectations for your own small idea of a "social" reply, and your whine when you don't get what you expected.

                          This website is more for the silent readers, and for the internet in general, which sorely, sorely needs people like me to give counterpoint to all that bullshit chatter (and outright fraud in some cases), in order to represent the message here. You can always join in. BS and myth is allowed here, day after day, without a word from some of those who know better. So more of us are needed.

                          But I'm around. I'll go on bouncing pearls off snouts from time to time. So suck it up. But you need to realize, I'm actually aiming information to the general readership, posts for those readers outside, when I think it's important. Don't let your fragile expectations get in your own way, and definitely not in my way, because it's still not about you, and if you think it should be, it will really not be about you. It will be straight forward posting in plain language, about truthful experience and fact. It will never be couched in concern for fragile social media pussies.
                          Last edited by Reality; 02-07-2018, 02:32 PM.

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                          • #14
                            consistency is key, go for a time that you can tug every day. If you can tug for 7+ hours every day then go for it but if you get any skin tears or use too much tension then you need to reel it back a bit so don't over do it. I usually tug about 4-6 hours per day if I can but lately I've been inconsistent so I'm not making much gains.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Reality

                              Uh, no, where were you, I was huffing buncha paint, like I said. It isn't always about -OH you know. Occasionally I go with a saucy little number from one of Krylon's vats. I like the medium brown, gets ya high quick and goes with my beard color, kinda looks like a cheezy beard if you don't look to close at it ( the arresting officers always do, though).

                              Oh wait. Was this written in honest and straightforward language? Do you feel that I was being "condescending", sittin' here behind the dumpster with my can and my rag?
                              Krylon? That shit will definitely give you a Willie Mays cheesy looking beard! Try a pure solvent like MEK or acetone for the good buzz.

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