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    Hi,
    I'm new to restoring, didn't yet do much stretching. I am completely confused about the effects of stretching and the anatomy, and I don't want to do anything wrong which is permanent.
    I was circumcised at birth. I have about 3/7 inner foreskin (white sensitive skin, from the circ scar to the glans) and 4/7 shaft skin (insensitive, darker screen from the circ scar to the base of the penis).
    I guess to have as much inner foreskin as possible is better because it's more sensitive. But in general, I just want to have the same anatomy of intact males. But I don't know how. It's all very complicated and confusing to me. I also browsed some website about anatomy, but it didn't help much to understand.
    When I watched an intact male on porn once, it seems like they have both inner and outer skin and the outer skin slides above the inner. Obviously in my case (and the images I've seen of other circumcised people) it can't happen since what we have is a big patch of continuous skin. There are no layers. How are the layers created by restoring, if they even can be created?

    If I stretch with manual tagging the whiter skin between my circ scar to the glans, where would it go? In my mind's eye it would just collect itself at the spot where I stretched.
    Similarly, If I stretch with manual tagging the blacker skin between my circ scar and the base, in my mind's eye, a lump of excess skin would collect at the base of the penis.
    So, why would any new skin I create by manual stretching have the tendency to want to go to the glans and over it and form "the roll" above the glans? and what's more confusing to me is how can the blacker skin even reach the glans if the skin is located at the base, there is distance to the glans and there is the whiter skin standing in it's way - and all this skin is one continuous layer, not two "riding on top of each other" layers like I've seen in intact males?

    and final question, how much inner foreskin do I need? if right now it's 3/7, what should the ratio be ideally?

  • #2
    Check out this site:

    http://www.noharmm.org/anatomy.htm

    Then this one:

    http://www.restoringforeskin.org/for...uide-restoring

    Just to make sure your thinking is clear, we are not stretching. We are applying tension in order to trigger our skin cells to grow more skin. Get stretching out of your mind, and think in terms of watering plants. Add water and wait for the plant to do its thing.

    If you want to end up as close to what you would have had, do what I did. Try and grow inner and outer, so that when you are finished, you will have inner on the inside, and outer on the outside, with full flaccid coverage.

    Hope that helps, feel free to keep asking questions.

    Regards

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    • #3
      While you're flaccid, just push your skin up over the glans to see how it naturally rolls over. As you gain skin from tugging, you'll get increasingly more of that action until you reach a point where it will just ride up over the glans on it's own.

      Here's a good series of pictures showing how things progress:
      http://www.foreskinrestore.com/results_1-24months.html
      (Keep in mind this guy was an exceptionally fast grower... for the vast majority it will take way longer than 24 months to get that far.)

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      • #4
        Originally posted by want_to_restore521 View Post
        When I watched an intact male on porn once, it seems like they have both inner and outer skin and the outer skin slides above the inner. Obviously in my case (and the images I've seen of other circumcised people) it can't happen since what we have is a big patch of continuous skin. There are no layers. How are the layers created by restoring, if they even can be created?
        At first, I didn't quite understand it either, and also wasn't sure how to restore until I'd figured it out. The foreskin IS continuous skin, with no layering involved. If you take the skin you've got now, pushed in the glans, and rolled the skin over, you'd have a functional approximation of a real one. Restoration involves expanding your skin so that there's enough to stay over the glans by itself. Many restorers even grow enough to hang past the glans.

        Once the skin is pulled over, that's when you've got a double layer of skin - it's just folded at the end, and all still continuous. The inner foreskin is what would normally have been on the inside of this, in direct contact with the glans. If you star tugging, you're correct in that the skin will collect in place where it is - but eventually, you'll have so much bunched up that it won't be able to stay in place, and will push itself forward over the corona.

        As for the question of how much you need, that's an answer you can only figure out for yourself a while after you've started restoring. Many of us want enough inner foreskin to cover the glans loosely, as with a natural foreskin, and that's definitely possible with what you describe.

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        • #5
          I'm not sure anyone here has answered your questions. Greg b is right, we aren't "stretching skin", we are growing more skin because this is what happens when tension is applied to shaft skin and to a lesser degree, to mucosa (your "white" skin). This "more skin" collects on the shaft, as it grows, in the form of wrinkles. These wrinkles join together to form a "clump" of skin which circles the shaft. When the time comes (when you have enough newly grown skin), you can roll that loose "clump" skin down into a "tube". This tube takes its shape from the shaft itself. This tube, if you have enough of it, will cover the sulcus, corona, and glans, thereby appearing to look like a "foreskin". Because this tube covers the mucosa ("white skin") it acts to return that mucosa to its original function, which will include increased sensation. YOU don't have to worry about any of this. YOU don't have any control over any of this. Your skin knows what to do. Just go on tugging, and you will see what I mean here, and you will see everyting you want to see. This is a promise from me, who the admins want to silence (you have to wonder why).

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          • #6
            Originally posted by want_to_restore521 View Post
            confused about the effects of stretching and the anatomy
            What restorers do is a form of tensile tissue expansion. You can find scholarly articles about this (but probably none of them will be penis-specific).

            Originally posted by want_to_restore521 View Post
            I have about 3/7 inner foreskin (white sensitive skin, from the circ scar to the glans) and 4/7 shaft skin (insensitive, darker screen from the circ scar to the base of the penis).
            Plenty of cut guys were left with less inner skin than that.

            Originally posted by want_to_restore521 View Post
            I just want to have the same anatomy of intact males.
            The lost parts are gone forever. With restoration we only expand the surviving skin so it can act in many ways like a foreskin. The lost parts are gone. The benefits are real http://TLCTugger.com/benefits-of-foreskin-restoration/

            Originally posted by want_to_restore521 View Post
            what we have {after circumcision} is a big patch of continuous skin. There are no layers. How are the layers created by restoring
            When you have enough slack and mobility you will be able to force the skin tube to roll forward and cover the glans.

            Originally posted by want_to_restore521 View Post
            how much inner foreskin do I need? if right now it's 3/7, what should the ratio be ideally?
            You need skin that - while the skin is very relaxed - reaches from the base to just past the tip, and back to the sulcus. Ideally it would have that reach while you're erect so the skin could be manipulated like a foreskin during intimacy. That's what I would describe as the minimum to say you're restored, but we each get to decide what being restored means, and then tug until we hit that mark. As for a ratio, it depends on your preference. I say the scar is ideally just slightly into the facing-in skin, not all the way out at the roll-over point. But there is no one right answer for ratio. The longer you grow your skin tube, the closer to 50/50 your inner-facing/outer-facing ratio gets
            -Ron Low
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            847 414-1692 Chicago

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            • #7
              Originally posted by admin View Post

              What restorers do is a form of tensile tissue expansion. You can find scholarly articles about this (but probably none of them will be penis-specific).



              Plenty of cut guys were left with less inner skin than that.



              The lost parts are gone forever. With restoration we only expand the surviving skin so it can act in many ways like a foreskin. The lost parts are gone. The benefits are real http://TLCTugger.com/benefits-of-foreskin-restoration/



              When you have enough slack and mobility you will be able to force the skin tube to roll forward and cover the glans.



              You need skin that - while the skin is very relaxed - reaches from the base to just past the tip, and back to the sulcus. Ideally it would have that reach while you're erect so the skin could be manipulated like a foreskin during intimacy. That's what I would describe as the minimum to say you're restored, but we each get to decide what being restored means, and then tug until we hit that mark. As for a ratio, it depends on your preference. I say the scar is ideally just slightly into the facing-in skin, not all the way out at the roll-over point. But there is no one right answer for ratio. The longer you grow your skin tube, the closer to 50/50 your inner-facing/outer-facing ratio gets
              Well said.

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