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    So, I've been restoring for a while now. I've learned a lot since I first started, I've seen a lot of progress, and I'm really happy that I feel well on my way to a restored foreskin. I'd like to share a little bit about how I feel, what I think about foreskin restoration, and what I've learned during this time.

    (for reference, I've been restoring for almost 7 months, gone from 50% FEC to 106% FEC, and gone from RCI 1-2 to the beginning of RCI 4)

    1) Visual State: The visual state of your penis will vary DRASTICALLY during your restoration process. And I don't mean over the months as you restore, I mean over the day, depending on what state your penis is in. For example, right now I would consider myself juuuuust reaching RCI-4. When my penis is really relaxed and in its 'low hang' state it almost looks like I've never even started restoring. When I'm in the shower it appears like a solid RCI-4 with distinct rollover. When I'm wearing tight underwear I get almost full flaccid coverage. When my penis is cold and small it just looks like a solid RCI-2, with wrinkling behind the head. Sometimes when you're looking at yourself and you look like an RCI-1 but you've been restoring for months and months it can be a little bit discouraging...which is why FEC was so goddamn important for me. This brings me to my second point.

    2) FEC. FEC has really saved my sanity. Being able to do this measurement every week or two and see solid, measurable, reproducible progress makes you actually -feel- like you're making headway with restoration much more than the transient visual appearance of your penis. I cannot stress enough how using this measurement has helped me, and how good it makes me feel to see it increase. Highly recommend.

    3) Sexual sensation. I began to feel my sexual sensation change at around 90% FEC. It's a bit difficult to describe...but for me, instead of a tight, frictiony feeling during sex it's become a bit more loose and organic feeling with the more manipulable amount of penile skin. I can only expect this feeling to get better, but even at only 106% FEC I can distinctly feel a difference. When I masturbate with lube my skin can easily reach ~50% coverage on the upstroke without me forcing anything at all, which is awesome.

    4) Routine. When I began, I was counting the hours I had the device on and trying to meet a specific hour per day amount. That didn't last very long. Now, I just put on the device in the morning, wear it until it gets uncomfortable, then take it off for around an hour or two. Then, I put it back on. This has resulted in me getting as many as 8 hours per day of tugging in, or as few as 4. However, this more unstructured approach is working a lot better for me. As people here have said before, you don't need to try and force it, get into a routine and let time do the work for you. As for a days per week amount, usually I'm doing 5, thought whether that comes in the form of 5-on 2-off or a couple sets of 3-on 1-off sort of varies depending on how I'm feeling. .

    5) Application and Tension. Started out being super awkward with application. Now I can throw the TLC-X on in like 15-30 seconds. Super easy. The increasing amount of slack skin I have has definitely helped though. For everyone else...I know it might feel awkward and tedious to get a good application at first, but believe me, it gets a lot easier. As far as tension goes, I've been sort of cycling between two different tension levels. One is a very casual tension that I can easily go 4 hours with, but that still feels like I get a good stretch out of. The other is a bit of a higher tension that takes my skin to its elastic limit, but that I can only stand for ~2 hours before it starts to become uncomfortable. This is ditto for the amount of bi-directional tension I use...sometimes I will go for a deep application of my device and less bi-directional tension (plunger depressed less far), and other times I will go for a bit of a shallower application but with the plunger depressed almost the whole way in. I'm just going for variety here, and I think all of it is working to some degree or another.

    6) Other indicators: So, what else have I experience since I started restoring that is new, or that let me know that restoration was actually working? Well, for one, I now have to pull up the loose skin that is bunched up around my glans before I can completely try my penis, especially if I intend to put on my device after I'm finished showering. I do remember that this never used to be the case, I could just slap the towel around my penis a few times and be done with it, but now I do have to pay more attention and specifically pull back the skin if I want everything to be dry. Also, the amount of time that it looks like I have full flaccid coverage after I take off my cone from retaining has changed. When I started, the skin would immediately roll back, maybe pause making me look like a RCI-4 for a few seconds, and then stay behind my glans. Now, if I stand still, I when I take off my retainer it will look like I have full flaccid coverage for maybe a minute or so (granted, it's easy to tell this coverage is borrowing a bunch of scrotal skin, but still neat to see), and then the skin will roll back making me look like a solid RCI-4 for maybe 5 minutes before stopping at the 'mushroomy' stage where it looks like it's juuuuuust about to roll over. Even though sometimes the changes come slow and can be subtle, it's very exciting when you start to notice and experience them.


    Question, comments, or discussion welcome . Just wanted to share my story and progress with like minded individual.

  • #2
    This is very informational.

    But I don't understand. How some guys seem to make such fast and measurable progress in less than a year.

    I do not have a device. But I have been consistently restoring for over a year now, 4-5 days a week, with manual tugging techniques (and in the past year, using the Reverse Taping Method, just without the tape). Maybe I don't use enough tension for long enough periods of time? Or is it likely that I am making at least some progress?

    As it is now, when limp, I have bunching up of inner skin behind the corona, and wrinkling of the outer skin on the shaft.

    How do you perform FEC measurements?

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    • #3
      Here's Ron's page on how to calculate it: http://tlctugger.com/forced-erect-coverage/

      I've found the most important thing is pulling your skin up in a way that you can reproduce every time, so, if that means using as much tension as you can and borrowing a bunch of pubic skin in your measurement..fine. The point is to measure the same way so that you know you're growing .

      Hard to say whether or not you're making progress just from the visual appearance, that's why I like FEC so much. I really recommend getting a device though, once you get used to using it, it's just kind of a 'put it on and forget about it' kinda deal.

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      • #4
        I tried the FEC using cm measurements, and a pencil for the sounding, since I can pull the skin past the glans. My results were [1 - (-7/5)] = 240%

        Is this numerical result consistent with/indicative of my description of the wrinkling and bunching skin that I'm currently experiencing?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by BeforeskinProject View Post
          I tried the FEC using cm measurements, and a pencil for the sounding, since I can pull the skin past the glans. My results were [1 - (-7/5)] = 240%

          Is this numerical result consistent with/indicative of my description of the wrinkling and bunching skin that I'm currently experiencing?
          Are you sure you're doing the calculation right? What is the length of your glans vs. the length of skin you have? Because your -7/5 term isn't quite making sense to me. My current calculation is:

          1 - (.875/1.7) = 48.5%

          That is, .875 inches of glans is showing on a 1.7 inch long glans when erect coverage is forced.

          FEC can't really be compared among men easily, simply because skin elasticity and pain tolerance varies greatly. It also doesn't take into account the girth of the glans, which can affect coverage a lot. I've read that men > 200% FEC tend to have pretty reliable flaccid coverage though, so that's why I'm a bit mystified at your number.
          Visit my restoration progress journal.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by almostinside View Post
            So, I've been restoring for a while now. I've learned a lot since I first started, I've seen a lot of progress, and I'm really happy that I feel well on my way to a restored foreskin. I'd like to share a little bit about how I feel, what I think about foreskin restoration, and what I've learned during this time.

            (for reference, I've been restoring for almost 7 months, gone from 50% FEC to 106% FEC, and gone from RCI 1-2 to the beginning of RCI 4)

            1) Visual State: The visual state of your penis will vary DRASTICALLY during your restoration process. And I don't mean over the months as you restore, I mean over the day, depending on what state your penis is in. For example, right now I would consider myself juuuuust reaching RCI-4. When my penis is really relaxed and in its 'low hang' state it almost looks like I've never even started restoring. When I'm in the shower it appears like a solid RCI-4 with distinct rollover. When I'm wearing tight underwear I get almost full flaccid coverage. When my penis is cold and small it just looks like a solid RCI-2, with wrinkling behind the head. Sometimes when you're looking at yourself and you look like an RCI-1 but you've been restoring for months and months it can be a little bit discouraging...which is why FEC was so goddamn important for me. This brings me to my second point.

            2) FEC. FEC has really saved my sanity. Being able to do this measurement every week or two and see solid, measurable, reproducible progress makes you actually -feel- like you're making headway with restoration much more than the transient visual appearance of your penis. I cannot stress enough how using this measurement has helped me, and how good it makes me feel to see it increase. Highly recommend.
            Agree x 100. The CI or even RCI scales are absolutely maddening to use for any man who simply has a wide range for what his flaccid penis looks like. You have no way to know if you're growing skin unless you are doing something repeatable to measure it. The CI/RCI scale has very poor day to day repeatability, in my experience. Save CI/RCI to describe a desired endpoint - not useful for describing progress unless you want to throw your hands up in frustration.

            Originally posted by almostinside View Post
            5) Application and Tension. Started out being super awkward with application. Now I can throw the TLC-X on in like 15-30 seconds. Super easy. The increasing amount of slack skin I have has definitely helped though. For everyone else...I know it might feel awkward and tedious to get a good application at first, but believe me, it gets a lot easier. As far as tension goes, I've been sort of cycling between two different tension levels. One is a very casual tension that I can easily go 4 hours with, but that still feels like I get a good stretch out of. The other is a bit of a higher tension that takes my skin to its elastic limit, but that I can only stand for ~2 hours before it starts to become uncomfortable. This is ditto for the amount of bi-directional tension I use...sometimes I will go for a deep application of my device and less bi-directional tension (plunger depressed less far), and other times I will go for a bit of a shallower application but with the plunger depressed almost the whole way in. I'm just going for variety here, and I think all of it is working to some degree or another.
            A few weeks of increasing elasticity from just applying the device helps a lot. Plus you just get better at putting it on.

            I have found I can wear most levels of bi directional tension for as long as I want. Strapped tension is another story though. Making it to 4 hours on an application has been a challenge.

            Originally posted by almostinside View Post
            Question, comments, or discussion welcome . Just wanted to share my story and progress with like minded individual.
            Visit my restoration progress journal.

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            • #7
              I agree, because I doubted the accuracy of my results as well.

              ​My glans, fullest size, was 5 cm - tip to edge of corona. I forced the skin up over and past the glans, and stuck a pencil in to "sound" the distance to my glans inside, removed the pencil, and measured on it 7 cm (the distance from my glans to the tip of the forced-up skin).

              All this lines up with the instructions. I am baffled - what could the error be?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by BeforeskinProject View Post
                I agree, because I doubted the accuracy of my results as well.

                ​My glans, fullest size, was 5 cm - tip to edge of corona. I forced the skin up over and past the glans, and stuck a pencil in to "sound" the distance to my glans inside, removed the pencil, and measured on it 7 cm (the distance from my glans to the tip of the forced-up skin).

                All this lines up with the instructions. I am baffled - what could the error be?

                Wow - that's a lot of skin. 7cm beyond the end of the glans when you are completely erect? That is a heck of a lot more than me. I'd start keeping a monthly log to see if you're seeing progress. Try to measure to the nearest mm - cm is too coarse IMO.

                This might be a case where FEC truly just cannot be compared among men, because I am almost certain I would personally have reliable flaccid coverage at that level of FEC.
                Visit my restoration progress journal.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BeforeskinProject View Post
                  I tried the FEC using cm measurements, and a pencil for the sounding, since I can pull the skin past the glans. My results were [1 - (-7/5)] = 240%

                  Is this numerical result consistent with/indicative of my description of the wrinkling and bunching skin that I'm currently experiencing?

                  Erm...this doesn't sound quite right to me. Are you sure your penis was absolutely completely erect before you did the measurement? With a FEC like 240% you should pretty much have full flaccid coverage, I think. If you're super in doubt you could always take a picture and post it to the forum, lots of people here would probably be able to tell you where you're at.

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                  • #10
                    Thank you for the feedback. I am completely sure that my penis was fully erect when I did the measurement. I even chose to use cm instead of inches because I thought it would be more accurate to do so. I do not have flaccid coverage. Could the elasticity of my skin have an effect on the results of this measurement?

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