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    Hey guys.

    As many of you may know, I have a progress gallery on here which begins with some tips/tricks/advice to help guide our fellow restorers. I've learned a lot since I started in 2017, both from personal experience and from other members of the forum, and I want to try to make that knowledge accessible and useful.

    That said, I would like to know if anyone has suggestions for additions to this list. Are there things you know now that you wish you'd known sooner? When you were brand new to FR (or if you're currently new), what help/info/advice could you have used the most? Have you encountered any problems and, if so, how did you solve them? Do you have any unorthodox ways of handling certain things that others may not have thought of? Have you seen the same question asked 1,000 times, and would love to not see it any more?

    The only things I'm NOT looking for are things like instructions for making and using home-made retaining/tugging devices.
    Other than that, I'd love to hear from you guys. To be able to consolidate that kind of knowledge into a "one-stop shop" kind of deal could be incredibly helpful to guys at all stages of their restoration.

    If we can get a decent amount of useful feedback, I'd also try to work to see if we can't get all of that info (including the stuff already on my progress gallery) into some sort of permanent place in the "Welcome/Orientation Center", as that is likely where it would do the most good. It would also spare people from having to look at my wiener in order to get some decent info lol.

  • #2
    I'll say using the dtr lighter tension that the device can stay on for like 4 hours is better than more tension that slips off after 1-2 hours. If you are trying to fit into a work schedule. More tugging time is better than more tension, unless you can constantly reapply the device. Also tight boxer briefs help keep device on and hidden.

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    • #3
      Some advice I wish I paid closer attention to when I started is pay close attention to your POE when attaching what ever method you choose.

      2 benefits I can think of ...
      • if you attach on the POE you will put even tension on both inner and outer skin and will grow them as evenly as possible
      • since you have tension on both instead of one more than the other you may see slightly quicker results
      i got in the habit of attaching t tapes just behind my POE and now I can tell I have more outer skin than inner. Not a big deal but if if I paid closer attention it would be better.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by vbnm0124 View Post
        Some advice I wish I paid closer attention to when I started is pay close attention to your POE when attaching what ever method you choose.

        2 benefits I can think of ...
        • if you attach on the POE you will put even tension on both inner and outer skin and will grow them as evenly as possible
        • since you have tension on both instead of one more than the other you may see slightly quicker results
        i got in the habit of attaching t tapes just behind my POE and now I can tell I have more outer skin than inner. Not a big deal but if if I paid closer attention it would be better.
        Not familiar with the acronym POE, could you clarify that for me?

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        • #5
          High tension can lead to no growth or slow growth. I was doing around 22 pounds for 2 minute intervals at one stage and about 5-7 pounds for longer 30 min - 1 hr sessions. Really slow to no results. Really stupid but I was reading guys saying they were doing "high tension" for short times and getting good results and I didnt want to put in much time strapped up...I even thought I was trying low tension doing ~3 pounds for ages too... Then I decided tugging didnt work and went to inflation. A lot of ppl say inflate till the skin is firm but for me I think that was too high tension as well and had poor results. But I still stuck at it on and off for many many years cause thats what everyone else seemed to be doing.

          Using a fish scale Im sticking to 10-12oz of tugging tension with a strap and Ive seen good results. Might inflate to low tension soon too.

          Would love to see a breakdown on mitosis, how it works, what hormones stimulate it, HGH or IGF 1 or?

          A breakdown on why moisturizer wont help u grow faster as a lot of guys seem to go in that direction. If your skin is irritated it will help but it wont grow your skin.
          Last edited by Random; 07-30-2020, 07:59 AM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by The Metal One View Post

            Not familiar with the acronym POE, could you clarify that for me?
            Sure -POE is the Point Of Equilibrium. Essentially if you have been circumcised it’s the scar left behind - or where the inner skin ends and outer skin on you shaft begins.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by vbnm0124 View Post

              Sure -POE is the Point Of Equilibrium. Essentially if you have been circumcised it’s the scar left behind - or where the inner skin ends and outer skin on you shaft begins.
              Interesting. I've come across that idea before, just using the term "scar line" instead of POE.
              Thank you for the contribution!

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              • #8
                Putting this here both as a reminder for myself, and another prompt to assist with those who want to contribute to this: what is a list of restoration "do"s and "don't"s?

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                • #9
                  Dont wear a device while sleeping.
                  dont ignore discomfort

                  Do take care of your skin with lotion
                  Do wear a device with tight boxer briefs with confidence in public

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                  • #10
                    Is this really all the feedback we can get?
                    You usually don't have to try so hard for people to give their two cents, on the internet...

                    Where are all the people who told me how wrong I was about everything, when I first started FR? lol

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                    • #11
                      I just read your tips and think you covered most things a beginner might want to know pretty well so maybe that's why you haven't gotten more suggestions, it's already really good!

                      The only thing you didn't include that might be good to mention are skin bridges / adhesions and how that might affect restoring. I have some that are pretty small but I still wonder if (or how much) they are affecting my restoration. After about a year of restoring one of them was causing some sensitivity issues for me where it connects to my glans (there was a spot probably only about 1mm in size that was red and very sensitive to touch) and I stopped restoring for a long time. I've been thinking about seeing a urologist about it for awhile now but the usual case of embarrassment has held me back from making an appointment, plus in the past month or so of tugging regularly again I haven't been having the same issues as before.

                      I know it's hard to give any solid advice on that since adhesions and bridges can vary so much from person to person and may or may not affect restoring, but maybe just mention what they are and that if they are large or extend all the way over the corona / onto the glans that it could hinder restoring and that it would be a good idea to see a urologist about them. Maybe include a link to some photos as well.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by The Metal One View Post

                        Not familiar with the acronym POE, could you clarify that for me?
                        As explained: "point of equalibrium", which is an old fashioned term from the early days when guys mostly used tape or weights. It actually has no importance nowadays, other than confusing the issue. The truth is, any and all tissue adjacent to the fixed point will see tension. (There will NOT be enough tension applied to the length of your penis, even though that tissue is deformed slightly by tension). The old question was: " does the tissue under the tape see tension"? The answer is apparently "yes" (ask greg, he's the tape guru here). So positioning the tape becomes unimportant. Remember:

                        1. Tension does NOT somehow "shape" your tissues. All it does is stimulate the cascade of those intrinsic biochemicals which allow an increased cell division beyond the normal maintenance rate.

                        2. So: if either your shaft epidermis or your mucosa sees enough tension to cause those biochemical to flow to the site( "site" meaning the fixed point) it doesn't matter where your technique (device, tape, fingers) are placed; there will be growth to both tissue types because circ fused them together at the scar line, the OTHER fixed point.

                        3. This is NOT brain surgery so there is NO need to stress out over fine points. Why? Because the whole process doesn't work like that, and how it DOES work is NOT under your control (unless you decide to not place tension on any part of your penis). That's your only effect on this process: to "do" or not to "do" (hats off to Yoda). You would think this would be good news, but because this is social media, which only repeats what is easily understood (aka "myth"), it always is ignored in favor of the myth.

                        4. The so-called "tube" shape doesn't come from where you place tension, it comes from tissue growing over the surface of your penis, which is already a "tube" (or cylinder), and it comes from the plasticity of the tissue you roll down to form that "tube" which extends beyond the tip of the cylinder (the tip of your glans).

                        5. The only other "shape" involved is the natural narrowing of the tissue extending beyond the glans tip, which is caused by the microscopically thin muscle fibers which lie below your shaft skin.

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                        • #13
                          Good suggestion. That's exactly the sort of thing I'm looking for.

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                          • #14
                            Things I have learned in my 5 years tugging.

                            1. Use a duel tension device. I prefer the DTR or TLC-X.
                            2. NEVER use more than 32 ounces of tension.
                            3. Use Ron's "dangler method" when laying on your bed. Simply put, a string with a weight attached hanging over the edge. Comfortable and easy.
                            4. Don't kill yourself trying to get more hours in. When you are tired, just put the device away and go to bed.
                            5. Don't become overly consumed with tugging.
                            6. Every little bit helps. 2 hours a night is still something!
                            7. It's a marathon, not a race.
                            8. An easy way to retain is to use jock strap style underwear. Comfortable, supportive, and keeps you cool.
                            9. Hygiene is important, and more important for restoring folks/uncircumcised folks.
                            10. Stay positive.
                            PROGRESS GALLERY

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