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    Hello. I'm new to restoration and I've been doing this for about two months. Started with manual stretching, got a DTR (and forunately had enough slack to use it) and so far I feel like I'm making good progress. No noticeable growth but definitely looser skin.

    Anyway, how does one target only the shaft skin during restoration? I have roughly 2 inches of mucosal skin left on my shaft, so I'm concerned that a bi-directional device will create an imbalance between shaft skin and mucosal skin. Would I be better off using a single-directional method, like taping or a tigger, just to grow shaft skin? Or will the DTR provide enough shaft skin growth? I was under the impression that mucosal tissue grows slower than shaft skin so I initially thought using the DTR alone wouldn't be a problem.

  • #2
    2 inches is plenty of Inner mucosa. The best way to grow outer shaft skin is to remove the pusher completely and use is as a tugger with a strap or weight. When you apply the device, try to get as much outer skin exposed and under tension as possible.

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    • #3
      There is NO way to just grow inner or outer skin using a tugger (DTR, TLC) or similiar device. Both inner and outer skin grow at the same rate.

      You "might" be able to promote shaft vs inner skin growth by rolling the shaft skin "under" before attaching the outer cone but it is very difficult to keep the skin in that position. The skin will find its own point of equilibrian which generally is at the tip with an equal amount of inner and outer skin under tension.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Swingshiftworker View Post
        There is NO way to just grow inner or outer skin using a tugger (DTR, TLC) or similiar device. Both inner and outer skin grow at the same rate.

        You "might" be able to promote shaft vs inner skin growth by rolling the shaft skin "under" before attaching the outer cone but it is very difficult to keep the skin in that position. The skin will find its own point of equilibrian which generally is at the tip with an equal amount of inner and outer skin under tension.
        There it is, the plain truth.

        Personally, I would amend this to state that the tension is the same on both tissue types, closest to the fixed point. It's unclear to me that they actually grow at the same rate, but they see much of the same tension. unless you use manual on the shaft skin closest to the pubis. Or, use manual by tugging "out" from the shaft. But nobody does this. No reason you can't do either one, or both, though. (No, readers, it will not grow hairy skin or a "loose tube").

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        • #5
          Ok, on the plus side this makes everything a lot simpler. Thanks for all the advice guys!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Canadajuice View Post
            Ok, on the plus side this makes everything a lot simpler. Thanks for all the advice guys!
            I wish you the best of luck sir! And remember what Patton said!

            Except the challenges so that you may feel the Exhilaration of Victory!

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            • #7
              I had/have the same issue. What you can do is to roll your outer skin up into the bell of your Dual Tension device of choice as much as you can and set the bell there. This pushes the point of tension behind the inner skin. For a time, at least. As Swingshiftworker said, the point of tension will shift forward after a while, but you can negate this by readjusting every 1-2 hours or so. After a few years of restoring on and off and focusing on outer skin this way, I'm approaching equilibrium.

              I had luck with using my DTR as a tugger (tugging method as per http://www.foreskinrestore.com/using_the_DTR.html ) for a time as well, but I felt it was pulling my pubic skin and hair down with it. If you're not too worried about that, then that *may* focus on outer skin over inner skin.

              Some have said that inner skin grows slower than outer skin. If that's true, then eventually your outer skin will catch up no matter what method you choose.

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              • #8
                One more thing: i have a fair bit of penoscrotal webbing, with scrotal skin nearly touching the scar line on one side of my penis. If I'm able to trap the small amount of skin with few (or no) hair follicles in the device, will the skin trapped under the gripper be the outer skin that is receiving the most tension? This is what I'm doing right now.

                From what I understand if I am able to expand my shaft skin then my scrotal skin will begin to recede back to where it belongs, thereby reducing any webbing and hair on the shaft. How much can someone hope to reduce turkey neck through restoration? Is surgery the only way to correct this?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Canadajuice View Post
                  From what I understand if I am able to expand my shaft skin then my scrotal skin will begin to recede back to where it belongs, thereby reducing any webbing and hair on the shaft. How much can someone hope to reduce turkey neck through restoration? Is surgery the only way to correct this?
                  I would be careful about trying to remove the "turkey neck" skin from your penis for purely cosmetic purposes because there's a reason why that skin is there.

                  I have a lot of what you would call "turkey neck" skin between my penis and scrotum but i am also a grow-er with a very tight ball sack and when I get erect that "turkey neck" skin becomes taut and then entirely disappears. If I cut that skin off, I would probably not be able to get fully erect and, if I still could, it could be very painful.

                  So, I recommend you be very careful before you cut anything off. That's why you're here in the 1st place -- because your foreskin got cut off when it was entirely unnecessary to do so.
                  Last edited by Swingshiftworker; 04-23-2016, 01:28 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Canadajuice View Post
                    One more thing: i have a fair bit of penoscrotal webbing, with scrotal skin nearly touching the scar line on one side of my penis. If I'm able to trap the small amount of skin with few (or no) hair follicles in the device, will the skin trapped under the gripper be the outer skin that is receiving the most tension? This is what I'm doing right now.

                    From what I understand if I am able to expand my shaft skin then my scrotal skin will begin to recede back to where it belongs, thereby reducing any webbing and hair on the shaft. How much can someone hope to reduce turkey neck through restoration? Is surgery the only way to correct this?
                    1. Yes, it should receive the most tension, however this is a guess based on my mental image of what you've described. What is also a guess (but a much better one) is that, due to shaft skin's ability to naturally give, the effect from tension will be found closest to the gripped point on the skin. So...again based on your description, you will eventually see more shaft skin if you can grip that shaft area well enough. So maybe manual is still the way to go. It will be slow, as in year after year, but then it's slow for everybody. We do what we can do, with what we have (the motto of restorers everywhere ).

                    2. If hair is a problem affecting comfort when you use your device, then pluck it. Wash it well after you do this. When the hair returns, repeat. Commonly, if you do this enough times it can kill the hair folicle, and that hair will be gone for good. Otherwise, you won't see more hair from expanding skin; can't happen.

                    3. If the hair-bearing skin isn't the corrugated, true scrotal skin, then you are ahead of the game; just pluck and tug. The only real difference between shaft skin and scrotal skin is the dartos sheath is closer to the skin in scrotal skin. This closeness of the smooth muscle makes those ball-sac corrugations. So (again a guess), even if a bit of true scrotal skin is eventually expanded so that it lies on your shaft, those corrugations may flatten enough to pass. We do what we can do.

                    I don't see a deal-breaker here, or that you're in a worse spot than the rest of us.
                    Last edited by Info; 04-23-2016, 12:08 PM.

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