Why doesn't restoration work for some people?

[smt19]

Okay, I have been using a TLC Tugger since February and so far the skin has loosened up to the point where it bunches a little bit at the scar line on a cold day. Everything is working the way it should be working. Unfortunately, it doesn't work out so well for everyone. I have read about other people who stopped because it just wasn't working. Is there an obvious reason for why that?

[Guest]

There's a #1 suspected reason for it: unrealistic expectation for the real amount of time this all takes. Year, after year, after year, with incremental gain over those years; that's the reality. If somebody can't handle that, and they can't just go on tugging even though there isn't a quick pay-off, then they stop and call the process 'not working'. In fact it probably was working, just not as fast as they thought it would.

When I started I used to read on forums "it might take as much as two years". You can still see that referred to here and there, although in the more recent past that seems to have changed to "three years at least". Neither statement is true. It took me something like 9 years, with some added time due to experimentation with different methods. It will take a long, long time, so every tugger has to settle in and just go on, for however long it takes. At some point, some people resist that and give up. Giving up was their choice, a conscious choice, not something imposed on them. If it seems to be 'not working' after a couple of years, then change up, try something different. You have to want this thing, to get this thing.

[Going Hooded]

I'd like to add to what has been said so far. Part of my foreskin restoration was my scrotum enlarging. Literally the scrotum skin ended up on the shaft of my penis. There was times when tangible foreskin was growing. Other times it was my scrotum that was benefiting.

I often suggest to new tuggers to keep a monthly photo journal. Specifically photograph their entire penis and scrotum in repeatable positions to compare month by month. It doesn't have to be posted online. When you view these images on a computer screen (enlarged) you will see the progress even when it isn't immediately obvious at the actual size of a penis.

[parsecskin]

There are a lot of factors that play into growth rate. Age is a HUGE one. Younger guys get it done faster......period. Nutition, hydration, skin type, proper tension vs time for YOUR skin, tobacco use (this is huge. Nothing will Fuck up your skin worse than smoking tobacco.) Your overall health and activity level also play into this. But the ONE thing that is the most important is dedication and persistence. This takes years. I'm sure there's more factors I missed, but you get the point. This is a highly technical process. Figuring it out takes time too.

[Smertrios]

Have you tried t-tapes? Some use 1 long tape to go around the circumference and others like myself use smaller t-tapes (in my case 4 that are 1/2" wide). I definitely like tapes better than a device but it was a bit trying at first as there was a bit of a learning curve to making the tapes stay stuck.

[EdnaSoares]

Restoration works differently for different people! So you can expect the same results like others as everyone has different skin types.

[Swingshiftworker]

I'd like to add to what has been said so far. Part of my foreskin restoration was my scrotum enlarging. Literally the scrotum skin ended up on the shaft of my penis. There was times when tangible foreskin was growing. Other times it was my scrotum that was benefiting.

I've heard this b4 but I find it hard to believe that tugging will lead to scrotal skin growth. In all my years of tugging, ALL of the skin growth has been at the tip of my penis in the form of additional foreskin.

I am a grow-er with very elastic skin and balls closely adjoining my body/penis; no low hangers. I also have what most would call a lot of "turkey skin" because, when flaccid, you can see a lot of excess skin which begins about mid-way up the shaft and ends at the bottom of the scrotum.

When fucking, this skin expands along w/my penis, such that part of my scrotum essentially "becomes" part of the shaft and enters my GF when I go "balls to the wall." This is entirely normal for me but I have not seen any "growth" of this skin as a result of tugging. It's been there all along.

[Guest]

I've heard this b4 but I find it hard to believe that tugging will lead to scrotal skin growth. In all my years of tugging, ALL of the skin growth has been at the tip of my penis in the form of additional foreskin.

I am a grow-er with very elastic skin and balls closely adjoining my body/penis; no loose hangers. I also have what most would call a lot of "turkey skin" because, when flaccid, you can see a lot of excess skin which begins about mid-way up the shaft and ends at the bottom of the scrotum.

When fucking, this skin expands along w/my penis, such that part of my scrotum essentially "becomes" part of the shaft and enters my GF when I go "balls to the wall." This is entirely normal for me but I have not seen any "growth" of this skin as a result of tugging. It's been there all along.

I agree.

There is no physiological mechanism or physical dynamic which can cause scrotal skin to somehow travel from where it was before any skin expansion was begun, to rest farther distally on the shaft. That would require shrinkage of the shaft skin (or pulling shaft skin down into a temporary "tube" and calling it "permanent"), and skin expansion is the opposite of shrinkage. Scrotal skin may have been unnaturally positioned before beginning tugging, due to the effect of circ, but for scrotal skin to be pulled distally and rest there behind a flattened, unrolled "skin tube" (in the form of larger wrinkles of shaft skin), under no tension, flies in the face of physics, not to mention logic.

And if you think about it, if a person tried specifically to expand scrotal skin only, ending with a large volume of scrotal skin, it would probably hang lower in expanded folds, but its border with shaft skin wouldn't change from where it was originally, to farther out along the shaft. That also would be contrary to expanding that skin. At the least it's difficult to imagine without throwing logic and physics out of the window. And I'm way too obsessive to do that : )

[Gun Del Sol]

I agree.

There is no physiological mechanism or physical dynamic which can cause scrotal skin to somehow travel from where it was before any skin expansion was begun, to rest farther distally on the shaft. That would require shrinkage of the shaft skin (or pulling shaft skin down into a temporary "tube" and calling it "permanent"), and skin expansion is the opposite of shrinkage. Scrotal skin may have been unnaturally positioned before beginning tugging, due to the effect of circ, but for scrotal skin to be pulled distally and rest there behind a flattened, unrolled "skin tube" (in the form of larger wrinkles of shaft skin), under no tension, flies in the face of physics, not to mention logic.

I also can attest to my scrotum moving downwards. Also when I am flaccid it does not feel like anything is between my legs either. It's a free feeling, I would say. My little guy has a more relaxed look and feel to him. As far as physics goes, I would also say that it's a matter of displacement from where the scrotum originally was after circumcision. Hhmm.