Skin Getting Thicker

[parsecskin]

Over the past few weeks I have noticed that my skin has gotten a little thicker. Not a lot, and it's not swollen. Have any of you guys noticed this? I'm wondering if it's time I started retaining as much as possible to keep the growth going lengthwise and keeping the skin thinner. I'm at a CI 3.5+, not quite a 4 yet. Any thoughts?

[Guest]

Ok, I'll take a stab at it.

Your skin can contain more extracellular fluid then it usually does, due to the (very) minor trauma of tugging, especially if you put a bit more than the usual amount of tension on an area. You won't always be aware that you did this, but it can easily happen.

Extracellular fluid is what causes some swelling in tissue. But because this swelling always starts on the microscopic level (cells are way below what we can see with the naked eye), it can remain virtually unnoticed, so it won't always look like "swelling" in the big macro sense (like a swollen finger), but it can look like "thicker" skin, easily. So my bet is on a minor amount of swelling, especially if you've been tugging for awhile and you've never noticed this before.

There is nothing beyond minor swelling in the process of skin expansion for the usual suspect Those with a more or less rare condition(s) can notice true tissue thickening, but what are the chances that refers to you? Pretty slim, I'm bettin', and you would've noticed this in other areas long before, maybe even have a formal diagnosis to explain all that. Just take some time off, see what happens.

The other phenomenon you'd expect to see in penile skin expansion, is the slow build up of added tissue, in the eventual form of very small wrinkles. Remember, we aren't stretching skin permanently (I know you know this, but I'm also posting to the wider audience), we're adding cells, and this addition takes the form of very small wrinkles eventually, along with occasional minor extracellular fluid. These wrinkles show up in place, locally, where they were stimulated to from. So there really is never any direction, per se, in any of this, just local bits, in the existing tissue. It all happens locally, microscopic bit, by bit, and when this happens enough times you see a very tiny wrinkle, with very tiny valleys between those wrinkles, which are so small that this all can look like "thicker" skin at times, rather than completely unaffected skin. You are affecting skin, or actually it's affecting itself through a natural process. So you will have expect some noticeable changes.

Of course what I'm doing here is comparing how this process happens, against what you think you are seeing. I'm not there, so that's all I can do. But again, my money's on minor swelling. Take time off, see if it resolves. Then back at it.

I should add: I don't think retaining won't do anything to change the appearance that much (and it definitely doesn't affect "direction"), but it can't hurt, if it makes you feel better 'cause you're doing something. Just don't fool with harsh chemicals, black magic, or sex with extra dimensional aliens; this always leads to problems

[parsecskin]

What? No sex with aliens? WTF? Its too late. I fucked a Klingon last night. Maybe that's my issue. They are rough you know. Lol.
I'm going to take some time off anyways. I got a hot date tomorrow night and I might need to use it. Don't need any issues.

[hardacroposthion]

As you continue your restoration, your foreskin is going to get slightly thicker, or as thick as your genes dictate. And the reason for that extra thickness is due to the supporting tissue that is also building as your skin continues to lengthen. You are not only increasing the foreskin length in the process, but you are also increasing length on your blood vessels, nerve terminals, and the rest of the substrate tissue.

[Guest]

As you continue your restoration, your foreskin is going to get slightly thicker, or as thick as your genes dictate. And the reason for that extra thickness is due to the supporting tissue that is also building as your skin continues to lengthen. You are not only increasing the foreskin length in the process, but you are also increasing length on your blood vessels, nerve terminals, and the rest of the substrate tissue.

Welllllllllllll.......nope, not so much. The reasons for any appearance of thicker skin are generally twofold:

1. Transitory, minor edema due to the minor trauma that tugging represents;

2. The very simple but regularly misunderstood fact that when you create a "tube" from enough expanded skin, that tube is "made" from two layers of skin. Two layers will always look thicker than one layer because...........they are.

And ... I have to say: we are never "increasing the foreskin length", Aside from the fact that it's not, and never will be, a "foreskin", we are just increasing the volume of skin which lies on the shaft. You don't get the appearance of length until you've either grown enough to bunch up and roll over the corona, and/or when you roll that skin down into that temporary tube. The other factor of influence in the appearance of length is the fact that this expanded loose tissue lies on the circumference of a cylinder. Simple physics (well, not so easily seen by many, apparently).

So: today's word is appearance.

"Substrate tissue"? You might want to read the following:

We only affect the epidermis by tugging. The connective tissue which lies just below the epidermis (the dermis), and some of the organs which lie within the dermis grow naturally to supplement and supply the epidermis. Those tissues don't have the response to cycles of tension that the epidermis has. We don't tug arterioles and venules (and to some degree the "next up" vessels) "longer", they grow longer naturally, something your body does on its own. It's built in to the system as a whole. That's basic human physiology. Anybody who's studied it, knows this. It happens commonly elsewhere in the body, even with larger vessels. It's called "collateral vascularization". Read about it, it's interesting.

And as far as nerves go, what's your source? There is ongoing debate over whether or not nerve fiber "grows" in any appreciable way (certainly not by tugging) and certainly the number of neurons don't increase, as far as Science knows (thus far). They also are organs unaffected by tension, unlike epidermis.

The thinking that tugging creates anything other than expanded skin directly brings us back the old "parts" misunderstanding that was common on the old forum. It's not about parts (neurons) as the sole determination of sensation. The brain and its interpretation is the other 90% of the issue. Making things up doesn't help the mystery which surrounds the issue. The basics are known, and that knowledge always reveals someone else's lack of it.

There: took the long way around, but it's disappointing to see the same old crap. We're better than that.

[hardacroposthion]

INFO, I don't know where you get your information, but I can show you that not only your inner and outer skin grows with your restoration, but also the substrate tissue also develop. You cannot have a longer foreskin without its supporting tissue. My blood vessels have followed my skin growth. It's simple logic.

[Guest]

Ah, now I have a better picture of where you are, and what you can understand in this. Clearly, you don't understand what I've written; any part of it, actually, and it was as simple as I could make it. So I'm now suggesting you forget about doing any reading on the subjects that you brought up. You don't seem to be up to it, so I don't think reading will help. Interesting, considering you claim to be a "college graduate" in "biology" (sic).

But I'll be here, keepin' the record straight.

[hardacroposthion]

Very well...