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  • How much inner skin is optimal?

    For pre-stretching using the TLC-X, I'm working with rougly 1.5" of inner skin (the sensitive stuff.) It rises about 1mm above the shaft in thickness so it seems like its got some durability from the get-go.

    I'm kind of annoyed by the fact a parent can make this decision for their child, especially at 3 years of age, and even the mother can do it. That's messed up.

    Anyway its hard to elaborate without taking photos but I -think- I'm the high and tight style.

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    We like to help new guys here, but it helps to know.........


    1. "Optimal" for what?

    2. Not sure what you mean by "pre-stretching".

    3. Not sure what you mean by your inner skin "rise(ing) about 1mm" above the shaft, making it thicker than "the shaft"?

    4. And I'm not sure what you mean by "durability" of your inner skin.

    Looks like we need a little clarification here before anybody can give a good answer to the titular question, because these questions aren't aligned with what the tugging process (so-called "restoration") involves.

    But if I had to sum it all up in a general answer, nothing you've mentioned here, including your title's question, has anything to do with basic tugging. That should be good news.
    Last edited by Info; 07-03-2016, 04:33 PM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Info View Post
      We like to help new guys here, but it helps to know.........


      1. "Optimal" for what?

      2. Not sure what you mean by "pre-stretching".

      3. Not sure what you mean by your inner skin "rise(ing) about 1mm" above the shaft, making it thicker than "the shaft"?

      4. And I'm not sure what you mean by "durability" of your inner skin.

      Looks like we need a little clarification here before anybody can give a good answer to the titular question, because these questions aren't aligned with what the tugging process (so-called "restoration") involves.

      But if I had to sum it all up in a general answer, nothing you've mentioned here, including your title's question, has anything to do with basic tugging. That should be good news.
      1. Optimal for maximum sensitivity gain / surface coverage of inner foreskin after having stretched it

      2. Manual tugging

      3. The band of inner foreskin is thicker than the shaft by 1mm, making it appear as if it can be stretched more readily

      4. Lack of extra care not to rip it or stretch too much too fast. I'd like to make considerable progress in a relatively short amount of time

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      • #4
        Originally posted by tugginallnight View Post

        1. Optimal for maximum sensitivity gain / surface coverage of inner foreskin after having stretched it

        2. Manual tugging

        3. The band of inner foreskin is thicker than the shaft by 1mm, making it appear as if it can be stretched more readily

        4. Lack of extra care not to rip it or stretch too much too fast. I'd like to make considerable progress in a relatively short amount of time
        Ah, yes. My advice is to forget about everything you think you know about tugging ("restoration"), and just tug.

        1. However much inner skin you had before you were circ'd was optimal, so "optimal" sensation is gone now, never to return. You are stuck with whatever inner skin you have left. Yes, you can expand some of it, though. And you'll get some increased sensation. You won't get any of it by "stretching" though. You have to stimulate your tissue to grow, takes time, a lot of time. And as far as sensation goes, that takes time as well. Your brain has to relearn to see the sensation as a signal from your nerves.

        2. How does "pre stretching" equate to manual? Manual is a method as legit as any other. Unless........usually new guys think that manual is some sort of precursor (is this what you mean by "pre stretch"?) before using a device, and you seem to be wanting to do it the other way around, which is fine, but either manual, or a device, will carry you the distance in tugging. And, you can use a combo of both. Use any, or all methods out there. Time to start.

        And, again, we don't "stretch" skin into "more", or into some shape. We grow it, slowly, new cell by new cell. Either manual or a device (and both) will do this. So you can start now.

        3. Every circumcised penis I've ever seen, in life or in photos, displays a band of old inner mucosa that is slightly depressed (lower than surrounding skin), never "thicker" per se. Shaft skin is actually physically thicker than mucosa, has more layers, so it sits a bit higher than old inner mucosa, and the scar of course, can be raised highest because that tissue is commonly the thickest. So I don't know what you are describing unless you have scar tissue filling the area from your sulcus to the beginning of your shaft skin? I hope not.

        4. Everybody wants to "make considerable progress in a relatively short amount of time". Good luck. Skin grows under a set of natural rules which you can't influence. I'm talking about a natural law that you have no influence over. The only thing we can do is tug, and then it's up to your skin to respond, when it wants to, however fast it can.

        So......"durability" just isn't a factor in any of this, unless you have a rare skin condition of some sort. I'm assuming you don't. Your skin is more or less as durable as anybody's. In fact it's this durability that gives you the ability to tug on it.

        Just tug. You can start now. It takes year after year to see any real change, so go for it.
        Last edited by Info; 07-05-2016, 02:56 PM.

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        • #5
          Got it. I read on this site (below) that nerves will regrow and I've read other places that claim you can get as much as 70-80% of the previous natural sensations back... is that not true, even in the case of having roughly 2" of inner skin to work with?

          https://www.reddit.com/r/foreskin_re...retched_inner/
          "the inner skin closest to your scar has the greatest number of fine touch receptors and will grow more of them with every bit of skin restored."

          Other source by user:
          "Think of it like this. Maybe you only have 10% of all your feeling left, while people with more inner skin have 30% (just to make numbers up off the top of my head). Most fully restored guys (who were cut as adults and thus experience intact sex) claim that when cut they went down to about 30%, and when they restored they went back up to about 70-90% of their old feeling. Therefore, you can reasonably expect anything in the 50%+ category in terms of restored feeling at least perhaps even up to 70 or 80%."

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          • #6
            You can "get back" some sensation, in a way, but thinking about it this way can be deceiving.

            Two things happen: covering old inner skin, corona (and to a lesser extent, your glans), softens the toughened outer layer of tissues which cover those areas, so that tough layer eventually sloughs off. When this happens moisture will pass from under the mucosa (extracellular water), across it, and make that mucosa "wet" and more delicate and sensitive to touch. Also...... as I've said, the brain reinterprets the stronger signal sent by existing "nerves" which are now able to sense stimulation better. But we have to define terms at this point.

            You can't call neurons "nerves", which is what that guy seems to be doing. Sloppy, and misleading. Technically, "nerve" refers to the combination of the nerve ending, called a neuron, and the conducting fiber that leads from that neuron up into nerve bundles, which join with your spinal cord (this is a simplification but you get the picture). So...you have a neuron (specialized nerve ending) and a nerve fiber. Two connected, but different structures.

            You have a certain number of fine touch neurons in your mucosa (with their attached nerve fiber). This mucosa makes up the tissue covering the old inner foreskin, sulcus, and corona. (But not your glans. You glans is covered with mucosa, but it doesn't have the neurons associated with fine touch/pleasure. Having said that, once your glans is covered for a while, some increased sensation will return, but only that amount that your were born with before you were circ'd).

            Now, the important part:

            Can we grow MORE neurons? ABSOLUTELY NOT. Skin expansion doesn't do that. "Restoration" doesn't do that. Nobody, not science, not medicine, knows how to do that. Skin expansion only grows the base layer of skin, the connective tissue which lies under that skin, and small blood vessels. That's it.

            There are some studies which show that the fiber leading from the neuron can grow a bit, and this has been confirmed by subsequent studies so far (it is all still under study), but we will NEVER grow MORE neurons. Think of it this way: you have an electric doorbell, and the wire leading from it. You can grow a bit more wire, but never a second doorbell to push. So this guy on this forum is just another guy on a forum, who isn't giving you good information, primarily by evading an answer to the question, and by implying that you can grow new neurons to maintain the neuron density. Hogwash. Think about it, if science, and medicine, could grow more neurons, all those paraplegics would be dancing the night away. Sadly, they can't.

            Now, to put a percentage to how much some individual can "get back" is just plain arbitrary; another indication that this guy doesn't know what he's talking about. Also, what is possible as a "percentage" for one guy isn't necessarily transferable to another guy. And what's worse, it's treating the sensation that you will "get back" like it was completely gone, and implies that you will get MORE than that back. Because of all those "new neurons" that don't exist in actuality. The sensation wasn't gone. It was always there. The sensation which returns is there right now. You won't get additional sensation (more doorbells), just a return of a full signal that was muffled (from the viewpoint of the brain). In other words, it will take much less touch to push the doorbell down all the way

            I promise you, that if you hang in there, tug, cover your mucosa (either with the additional skin you've grown, or artificially), then you will experience an increase in sensation/pleasure. It's a given. How much, though, will be your percentage; specific to you and your variables. But something will surely happen, something very pleasing. Tugging is a gift. It will reveal that you have more potential to feel, than you thought.
            Last edited by Info; 07-06-2016, 03:49 PM.

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            • #7
              The purpose of tugging is to make your dick "look" like it did before they cut off your foreskin. That should be your only objective.

              You may get some more sensations back, then again you may not. More likely the latter. The feeling of "f*cking" will be better in the sense that you will regain the rolling motion lost when your foreskin was cut off. That's the only thing you can be certain of after your dick has been partially or fully restored.

              As for how much "inner" skin is "optimal," you really have no choice about that. Inner and outer skin essentially grow at the same rate as a result of tugging. That's because the tugger pulls on both the inner and outer skin at the same time. There really is NO consistent way to grow more inner vs outer skin (or vice versa). So, it's really not a matter worth discussing. Anyone who suggests to the contrary is misinformed.

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