3 Questions

[AnonymousMe]

Hello everyone, I have been restoring for 25 months now, but I don’t think I have done much progress for a long time and just to be sure, I want to consult it with you guys. A little bit of background first, I originally started with the skin cone, which made things advance quickly, then turned to the TLC Tugger and have never stopped using it, despite some (long) pauses; I’m on Stretch 16. I also have a “hidden” penis, due to an excessive amount of pubic fat I have, I’m 26-years-old too. Anyway…

1. Take a look at the pictures down below, the first two were taken yesterday, sorry for the yellow-orange tone, my penis got at its warmest at night, and the other two were taken 13 months ago, they look pretty similar, don’t they? I know the restoration process is slow, but is it supposed to be THIS slow or is this happening specifically with me? Despite reading that all guys take a different amount of time and methods to fully restore, I feel like I’m not where I’m supposed to be, I feel like my foreskin should hang out by itself above the corona when erect by now, yet it’s still below it.
What could it be? Am I doing something wrong here? Maybe I’m not noticing the progress? Am I using the incorrect method? Am I just being impatient? Based on the coverage index, I want to end at CI-9, I am a patient man guys, but I don’t want this to take an eternity.

2. This question’s only for those that are intact or that have completely restored and that have had sexual intercourse, I had a hard time putting this in words, so please excuse me if it’s not understandable.
Is it true that when the penis thrusts in, the foreskin retracts and when it pulls back, it covers the glans again? Or does the glans stay uncovered throughout the whole session? I just want to know if this really happens while having sex. If that’s true, then I can understand why women who’ve had sex with circumcised men feel sore after a session and why men would last longer.

3. Does anyone here know a member called James Rozo? That’s a real name, not a user name. He’s someone I knew in the previous forum two years ago and I need to talk with him.

[Going Hooded]

My response to this: Has your scrotum grown? This is what happened to me.

[greg_b]

The photos do look similar and do not show obvious progress, but it is not easy to see for sure in these photos.

When I have not had progress, as far as I can tell it was due to too little tension. And when I have had good progress, as far as I can tell, the tension was higher than the no progress times. So my suggestion is to experiment with tension. I think keeping to a given tension for a month should be sufficient to see some progress. Do a few trials at different tension levels to see what gives you some progress.

Regards

[AnonymousMe]

My response to this: Has your scrotum grown? This is what happened to me.

No, I'm sure my scrotum hasn't grown during those 13 months.

The photos do look similar and do not show obvious progress, but it is not easy to see for sure in these photos.

When I have not had progress, as far as I can tell it was due to too little tension. And when I have had good progress, as far as I can tell, the tension was higher than the no progress times. So my suggestion is to experiment with tension. I think keeping to a given tension for a month should be sufficient to see some progress. Do a few trials at different tension levels to see what gives you some progress.

Regards

So, you suggest I apply MORE tension? I don't know if I'll be able to do that, I make as much tension as possible that often times I take off my device for a few seconds due to pain, heck, sometimes, I need to take a few weeks off because of taking off some skin.
Maybe the TLC Tugger was not the right device for me, like I said before, the skin cone is the only device that showed progress, and that was when I started, when I was CI-2. Should I switch to a tape method instead then?

[RAnonUS19B]

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[greg_b]

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So, you suggest I apply MORE tension? I don't know if I'll be able to do that, I make as much tension as possible that often times I take off my device for a few seconds due to pain, heck, sometimes, I need to take a few weeks off because of taking off some skin.
Maybe the TLC Tugger was not the right device for me, like I said before, the skin cone is the only device that showed progress, and that was when I started, when I was CI-2. Should I switch to a tape method instead then?

No. I suggested experimenting with tension. You may feel that you are as high as is safe, so then would presumably try a lower tension. Or, visa versa. I have no idea what level of tension you are currently using.

Regards

[AnonymousMe]

Sorry for the late response guys.
Nobody's answered my 2 other questions, by the way.

Well there is also such thing as "too much tension", that will dramatically lower your progress

No. I suggested experimenting with tension. You may feel that you are as high as is safe, so then would presumably try a lower tension. Or, visa versa. I have no idea what level of tension you are currently using.

Greg, I also don't have an idea of how much tension I'm using. I've never had it, ever since I first started restoring back in 2014, I went "blind" with the tension, I guess all the red markings, dryness, stretch marks and skin tears I had throughout the months were a warning sign that I was doing too much tension, I don't think applying Vitacilina ointment to cure those things as fast as possible helped either. Now I'm paying the consequences due to my stubbornness; it just feels wrong to not stretch tightly. =/ Just FYI, I don't know how to determine it.

I'm going to experiment with another form of tension though. When I began with the canister method, I progressed fairly well (the pics), so now I'm going to try T-taping and try to be more considerate.

[OneSkin]

I've made seemingly no progress in about 1.5 years. 25 months is about how long I've been restoring, too! But now it's most of a year later than your post, AnonymousMe, and you're well on you way to 3 years restoring. How is your progress? I made excellent progress in just the first few months of tugging, and then it slowed or stopped and I haven't been able to note any difference in new skin length for about a year and a half now, even though I've been tugging consistently with very little "off time". I'm disappointed. I don't know what is wrong. Does anybody else have a story of a really long plateau they got past?

[parsecskin]

Hell, don't feel bad. I've been stuck at a CI3.5+ for over a year! The stage between CI3 to CI4 is the most frustrating and seemingly non productive. Trust me, it's not. Even though it doesn't seem you're making progress, you are. This is a very slow process. Finding YOUR ideal tension/time combination is CRITICAL and everyone is different. You have to experiment. Generally, about a pound of tension = or - is enough to grow skin. More tension for less time will yield the same results as less tension for more time. BUT too much tension and time will cause damage and put your skin into repair mode instead of growth mode. Too little time and tension NOTHING happens. You want to go to the elastic limit of your skin plus a LITTLE more. It should not hurt, you should not have skin tears of abrasions. These are signs of too much tension. HOWEVER a little mild soreness at the end of the day, particularly towards the end of your tugging week, is OK as long as it's gone by morning. If it's not you're tugging too hard. Time is easy to put a number on with a clock. Tension is a different story. I use an overhead anchor above my bed for my tugging strap and put a small digital fish scale inline so I know EXACTLY how much tension is there. After a while you can do it by feel. You also don't need to tug for hours and hours on end every day. I use 21 oz of tension for 30-40 minute sessions 4 or 5 times a day with weekends off. This works great for me, but it took a considerable amount of experimentation and learning of how my skin responds to different variables to figure it all out. The other thing that is going on here is that the early stages are deathly slow. As you gain skin your progress speeds up simply because you have MORE skin under tension. More skin = more skin cells stimulated to divide = more skin grown. A couple times a year it's good to take a full week off to let your skin recover. At some point even with the ideal time/tension combination, your skin simply stops responding and needs a rest.
Eating healthy, staying hydrated and not using tobacco are critical too, especially the NO TOBACCO part. Nothing and I mean NOTHING messes with your skin more that tobacco. If you smoke or chew....QUIT!
I know this seems like a lot ot digest, but this is how it all works. Hope this helps.

[OneSkin]

Hell, don't feel bad. I've been stuck at a CI3.5+ for over a year!

When did you start restoration?

[BelgianChris]

Eating healthy, staying hydrated and not using tobacco are critical too, especially the NO TOBACCO part. Nothing and I mean NOTHING messes with your skin more that tobacco. If you smoke or chew....QUIT!

I'd say this is good advice in general, but as a smoker, I don't think I see any effects on restoring. Obviously, I know it's an unhealthy habit, but I assume there are more smokers restoring and I'd be surprised if anyone ever noticed any impact on restoring...

[salamander6773]

Hello everyone, I have been restoring for 25 months now, but I don’t think I have done much progress for a long time and just to be sure, I want to consult it with you guys. A little bit of background first, I originally started with the skin cone, which made things advance quickly, then turned to the TLC Tugger and have never stopped using it, despite some (long) pauses; I’m on Stretch 16. I also have a “hidden” penis, due to an excessive amount of pubic fat I have, I’m 26-years-old too. Anyway…

1. Take a look at the pictures down below, the first two were taken yesterday, sorry for the yellow-orange tone, my penis got at its warmest at night, and the other two were taken 13 months ago, they look pretty similar, don’t they? I know the restoration process is slow, but is it supposed to be THIS slow or is this happening specifically with me? Despite reading that all guys take a different amount of time and methods to fully restore, I feel like I’m not where I’m supposed to be, I feel like my foreskin should hang out by itself above the corona when erect by now, yet it’s still below it.
What could it be? Am I doing something wrong here? Maybe I’m not noticing the progress? Am I using the incorrect method? Am I just being impatient? Based on the coverage index, I want to end at CI-9, I am a patient man guys, but I don’t want this to take an eternity.

Hi buddy. This is my 2 cents. It looks like you have a great deal of skin that you can tug manually with rubber gloves on for like 15 mins a night and make excellent progress. It looks also that you may be using too much tension. I can suggest to you a really excellent device. It is called the PUD, it is a stainless steel weight that you can piss out of, you just tape it and go. Just tug after work though with that device and I would order the small version. I am making great progress with manually tugging for a half hour 2 times a week if I am lucky. Take a multivitamin, use lotion to heal your skin. and eat a healthy diet. Work out regularly, and like parcel said, do not touch tobacco. But it looks like you are making good progress to me and you have to remember that to have erect coverage, it is a huge amount of skin... Like I said, if I were you, I would be manually tugging, seems like you are at the point where it may be a lot more effective. If you use a device, use a quality device like the tugger or the pud, and I would look into a traction rig, I wish I had gotten one of those. Anyway, you are further along that I am, but that is just some ideas from a fellow tugger. One more thing, if you feel the need, never hesitate to throw an ice pack on.

Embrace the journey, it will be worth it!

[Science Monk]

2. This question's only for those that are intact or that have completely restored and that have had sexual intercourse, I had a hard time putting this in words, so please excuse me if it's not understandable. Is it true that when the penis thrusts in, the foreskin retracts and when it pulls back, it covers the glans again? Or does the glans stay uncovered throughout the whole session? I just want to know if this really happens while having sex. If that's true, then I can understand why women who've had sex with circumcised men feel sore after a session and why men would last longer.

In answer to your question #2:
In the CIRP Library, there is a 6-panel line drawing on a web page entitled
"The Anatomy of the Penis, Mechanics of Intercourse."
It conveys a lot of information about the mechanics of intact/restored sex at a glance.
(Scroll down to Fig. 6., "The gliding mechanism." )

http://www.cirp.org/pages/anat/

Also, read the text next to, and below, Fig. 6.


The Science Monk’s summary:
1) During each inward stroke of intercourse, the intact/restored foreskin retracts (everts) so that the inner skin, and, even more importantly, the frenulum and ridged band is in contact with the vaginal tract. The foreskin lets go in gentle waves against the vaginal tract, producing the stretching motions that activate the Meissner corpuscles within the mucosal dermal layers. This produces an ou! la! la! that is entirely missing in circumcised sex. As the foreskin lets go in gentle waves, the sensitive female vaginal tract also experiences an ou! la! la! which is missing in when her male partner is circumcised.

(As a restored man, I have a neo-ridged band that is verrry sensitive. It popped into existence all by itself, after I had achieved full flaccid coverage and I had dekeratinized and gone wet. Other advanced restorers have reported the same. This was a magnificent unexpected bonus I didn't expect to get when I initially started restoring.)

Ridged and textured condoms, by the way, serve as a cheap imitation of the wavy action of the foreskin. If your partner likes ridged or textured condoms, she's going to love your natural restored foreskin.

2) During each out-stroke of intercourse, the foreskin partially recovers the glans (reverts). Most importantly, it covers the corona - the outer flange of the glans. This has a cushioning effect on the vaginal tract, which then does not get scraped by the corona during each out-stroke.

The foreskin makes contact with the female's G-spot.

At the very end of each out-stroke, the foreskin bunches up against the vaginal orifice, preventing the loss of lubrication. The corona of a circumcised penis, on the other hand, actually scrapes lubrication out of the vagina tract, often leading to dry, painful sex for the female partner.

3) Circumcised males and intact males display differing thrusting techniques (which can be observed by reviewing pornographic films). Circumcised males use long rapid thrusts during intercourse because that is what best stimulates what they have left after the circumcision procedure. Also, circumcised males often can only attain orgasm when their thrusting rate increases to a frenetic pace. This accelerated thrusting, of course, tears up his female partner's already dry vaginal tract. Some prostitutes have a slang term for the circumcised males they service; they call them "bangers."

In contrast, intact males use shorter and slower thrusts because that is what stimulates their wet loose penile skin best. When both sex partners are genitally intact, they tend to be in sync - both enjoying the thrusting action at the same slower frequency. Intact males also naturally tend to insert their penises deeper within the vaginal tract. Thus, they tend to move in closer to their female partners, giving them more clitoral stimulation.

David
World As Monkey Island

[Science Monk]

2. This question’s only for those that are intact or that have completely restored and that have had sexual intercourse, I had a hard time putting this in words, so please excuse me if it’s not understandable.
Is it true that when the penis thrusts in, the foreskin retracts and when it pulls back, it covers the glans again? Or does the glans stay uncovered throughout the whole session? I just want to know if this really happens while having sex. If that’s true, then I can understand why women who’ve had sex with circumcised men feel sore after a session and why men would last longer.

Oops! I forgot to also give you the URL for one of the best web sites to answer your questions:

http://foreskinfunctions.com/#part1

See also the parent site, Kirsten O'Hara's "Sex As Nature Intended It" web site:

http://www.sexasnatureintendedit.com

David
World As Monkey Island