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  • #16
    Info- My primaries specialty is international medicine. I haven't been able to see him yet,but I pplan to if this isn't gone by the end of the month. This hit at a horrible time. My previous primary had moved halfway across the state 5 months before it hit. I had never had a problem with walk in clinics before, but it's as if they know nothing on the matter. I finally got the situation with my primary taken care of, but when I went to see him the doctor I saw instead said that the system was messed up and that he wasn't available at the moment.

    I'm talking about the website thewholenetwork. The only doctors near me they had listed are pediatricians.

    No argument about needing to know what's going on. It didn't bother me much when they asked if I know where to go to get a circumcision scheduled, but it's as if they're waiting for me to do it before trying anything else. I even saw a urologist and a dermatologist. The closest the dermatologist came to making an effort was suggesting a probiotic, but the last thing she said before leaving was "You do know where to go to get a circumcision set up, don't you?"

    The urologist gave me contradictary answers. "It would look worse if it was bacterial." "There is no way to accurately diagnose it by visual means only. There are way too many things that will cause a rash like that." "Getting it tested will not narrow down treatment options. It's a waste of time. The closest he came to making an effort was suggesting a blow dryer.

    Since it is supposed to be kept dry does anyone think I should use powder or spray instead of cream?

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    • #17
      I forgot to mention the contradiction the dermatologist made. Before the subject of circumcision even came up I asked what she thought of training it to stay back. "No. That will just irritate it." I tried it for several months and she was right. Now my question is why she thought that doing so permanently would have been any better than temporarily. As soon as I brought up the fact that I could fix keeping it back if I regret it, but I can't fix removing it if I regret it she just went silent.

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      • #18
        If this new doc doesn't help, then I'd again suggest calling your medical insurance plan, explain the situation, tell the rep that in your view you feel you haven't received proper first echelon care (lab testing), and get a recommendation for a physician from them. In the US there has to be a valid medical diagnosis, with description of the affected areas, which hasn't responded to accepted treatment over a period of time, BEFORE circumcision is allowed and paid for by the plan, and this is all spelled out specifically by several sets of guidelines. Your plan (or an IPO) reviews your case using those guidelines; in other words it's not just up to the provider, he has to submit the request for circ (as a treatment) to your plan; that's how it works. Circ is not the slam dunk for an adult that people on forums think it is (unless you're paying somebody out-of-pocket).

        Worst case scenario you may have to get the circ, but only if your symptoms increase significantly, and if that's the case, then insist on a procedure which spares ALL unaffected tissue, so ask for a detailed description of what the provider has in mind; ask in the office, and before you are prepped. Also ask if he, or some assistant will be doing the circ. During the office consultation for the circ, take a small note pad and pen, and write down what he says. He gets pissed off, walk, find somebody else to do it. It's your body, and your penis. Be calm, considerate, but firm.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Balanitisthrowaway View Post
          I forgot to mention the contradiction the dermatologist made. Before the subject of circumcision even came up I asked what she thought of training it to stay back. "No. That will just irritate it." I tried it for several months and she was right. Now my question is why she thought that doing so permanently would have been any better than temporarily. As soon as I brought up the fact that I could fix keeping it back if I regret it, but I can't fix removing it if I regret it she just went silent.
          I have reservations about keeping it trained back and dry myself. Females get the majority of yeast and other fungal genital infections, and they recover without turning their vaginal tracts inside out. To me, this is all about getting back to normal, getting the normal ecological balance back, and you can't do that by turning yourself inside out. Acidified water rinses sure do help the women though.

          You are the very first intact male I've tried to help with a yeast infection. All of the others have been circumcised males. So, according to my personal experience, it's the circumcised males who get more yeast infections. Admittedly, it could be sampling error. However, I'm not at all convinced that it is the intact males that are getting the infections supposedly because they have a "nice warm moist pocket to get the infection in." I think Mother Nature has mechanisms of keeping that nice warm pocket disease-free.

          Stick to your guns about NOT getting circumcised for this. Circumcision will NOT be a cure.

          The most dreaded diagnosis for an infected foreskin is BXO (Balanitis Xerotica Obliterans)(I don't think you have this). Its cause is unknown, and it is considered incurable. It effectively ends the sex life for those who have it. The recommended treatment has always been circumcision. However, thoughtful clinicians are even questioning circumcision as a remedy for this monster disease. The problem is that the circumcision is not curative, and the BXO simply moves into the remaining foreskin remnant and closer to the shaft. I think a persistent yeast infection would do the same thing. So you would be worse off circ'd and still have the infection. Women get the majority of yeast infections, and they don't offer circumcision, infibulation, and/or hysterectomy to them.

          BXO page at CIRP:
          http://www.cirp.org/library/treatment/BXO/

          David
          World As Monkey Island
          I declared myself finished restoring with 3/4 erect coverage (CI-8.5) in 2005. I primarily used T-tape, strapping up and around my waist.
          I've participated in NORM meetings in San Diego, Los Angeles, Seattle (RECAP), and Ann Arbor, Michigan.

          Every doubt, reservation, or concern I had about my restoration was resolved by achieving additional foreskin LENGTH.....So just KOT !

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          • #20
            OK ... What colour is the rash that was diagnosed as Balanitis? You say it's on your glans ... but that your foreskin "itches", too? Does that mean the rash is Only on your glans? If that's so, why are doctors recommended you remove your foreskin?

            Balanitis, Balanitis Xerotics Oblierans (BXO) or Lichen Sclerous et atrophicus ... or just plain Lichen Sclerosus is a mysterious and (in men) very rare disease that forms white, scarlike plaques on skin. The disease is said to be ten times more common in women. As that appears to be the case ... the doctors who know a great deal about the disease usually treat women. Fortunately women have an internet site dealing with the problem ... and they have lists of doctors and a great deal of discussion amongst themselves See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LichenSclerosis/info

            There are internet sites devoted to male Lichen Sclerosus, but, as few men suffer from the disease, most sites are not very active. A fellow can get more information by combing through the messages on the women's site ... for information on various treatments, etc. However, as the disease is so mysterious, not much is known about it. Doctors suggest it is an auto-immune disease, but that's just a guess, based partly on not having any real understanding of the disease, which, it seems can affect almost any area of the body. In women it usually effects the genital and anal regions, and the effects are often much more severe than with men.

            Damn ... Don't know why the link brings up a German group ... When I type the link address directly into my computer ... I get the English language site!

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Rood View Post
              Damn ... Don't know why the link brings up a German group
              (There seem to be two similar groups:
              https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/LichenSclerosus/info (Created in Y! Deutschland groups, auto-switches to German)
              https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/LichenSclerosis/info (Note the -sis termination, this site is in English)
              Your link displays "...sis/info" but the URL points to "...sus/info".)
              From Madrid, Spain. Restoring with T-Tape, Manual, TLC & TLC-X since Jan 2014. Started as a CI-2, currently between CI-4 and CI-5 depending on the day.

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              • #22
                Thanks for the links. Mine is red, but it's nothing like that picture. It's just a tiny red patch. If it matters, it's much closer to the ridge than the urethra.

                I want to give my primary a chance before I resort to calling my insurance company, but I will definitely do that if he says I should get circumcised or refuses to test it. I'm going to give the miconazole and mupirocin until the end of the month, but I plan on setting up an appointment before then.

                I've read enough to know that if I have to do it that loose is better than tight, but I'm not clear on the difference between high and low. High and tight was what I wanted when I was younger, but that had more to do with the fact that that's how every penis I saw was. It also occurred to me that I there would be no going back if I regretted it. I taped it back tight like I thought wanted. I didn't even last a day. I put on some porn so I could see how an erection would feel after it was done. It was just too painful. Looking up and taking the time to compare the pros and cons only reinforced the decision to not do it.

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                • #23
                  I decided to give the vinigar a try. Does it matter if the water is cold or warm? How long should I let it soak? I used warm water and let it soak 10 minutes.

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                  • #24
                    I was cut due to dealing with yeast infection for 10 years. Some creams would help little but would not solve the problem. I went through dozens of doctors with dozens of prescriptions but unfortunately there is no one could find the cure for that. Then I was referred to urologist that was happy to do the surgery. Now procedure was done 4 months ago. Lost foreskin, yeast is gone, sex drive and sensations are gone too. If I go back in time I would keep using the cream.

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