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  • #31
    Grew up Mormon, now Agnostic.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by parsecskin View Post
      I don't do religion. ALL religions are nothing more than a mechanism to control the masses thru fear and intimidation while those running the scam live a cushy lifestyle at their followers expense. Not to say I don't believe in a higher power, God if you will. Something created all that is, it didn't just happen. Religion is evil. More people have been killed over whose imaginary sky friend is better than all other causes COMBINED, with the sole exception of natural death. Just be a good person while you're here and make a positive difference and you'll be good to go.
      This I expected, most people here are atheists. Which makes sense because I only realized that circumcision was mutilation after becoming a deist, shortly before becoming an atheist.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Violator View Post
        Just a simple poll, although some here think I'm militant anti-religion this is not the case, I disagree with extremist views, and have my own agnostism, but there is no hate here in this poll, I'm simply curious how diverse the religious views are among restorers on this forum. Please don't use this thread to attack anyone or anything of the sort.
        And 0 votes as Jewish

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        • #34
          Not athiest, just anti-religion. You can still believe in God (something created all of this, it didn't just happen) and be a good person without being a slave to some man made construct. Just don't be a dick. Religion IS bullshit.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by parsecskin View Post
            Not athiest, just anti-religion. You can still believe in God (something created all of this, it didn't just happen) and be a good person without being a slave to some man made construct. Just don't be a dick. Religion IS bullshit.
            You're a Deist then.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by parsecskin View Post
              I don't do religion. ALL religions are nothing more than a mechanism to control the masses thru fear and intimidation while those running the scam live a cushy lifestyle at their followers expense. Not to say I don't believe in a higher power, God if you will. Something created all that is, it didn't just happen. Religion is evil. More people have been killed over whose imaginary sky friend is better than all other causes COMBINED, with the sole exception of natural death. Just be a good person while you're here and make a positive difference and you'll be good to go.
              You sir are a woke-ass-messiah as i like to say. We think alike. Nicely said.

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              • #37
                I'd consider atheism to be specifically the belief that there is no god, rather than just the lack of belief in God.

                I'm raised Catholic, and still value the moral teaching, but as far as existence of a god, I'm agnostic. There really is no way to know currently why our universe came into being (or what's responsible for the basic laws of nature), so I find it reasonable to admit that you don't know if a higher power (or God) exists.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by bagpipe_foreskin View Post
                  I'd consider atheism to be specifically the belief that there is no god, rather than just the lack of belief in God.

                  I'm raised Catholic, and still value the moral teaching, but as far as existence of a god, I'm agnostic. There really is no way to know currently why our universe came into being (or what's responsible for the basic laws of nature), so I find it reasonable to admit that you don't know if a higher power (or God) exists.
                  Thanks for giving your definition of atheism. I find it difficult at times to have a good dialogue, because there are so many different ways people define atheism.

                  But the definition you use is not the one I use. I consider myself an atheist, but not defined the way you are defining it. I have no belief there is NO god. I simply have not seen any credible evidence that there is, so I do not believe in that for which there is no credible evidence. Simple.

                  If, in the future, I find credible evidence that has no reasonable explanation except that there is a god, then at that point I will change to a view that there is a god of some sort, based on that evidence. In other words, I can foresee changing based on credible evidence, but until then, I am an atheist.

                  Part of the difficulty is semantics. We use words that imply things, but we may not actually agree with those implications. Uncircumcised is a good example. I try not to use that word, because it implies that a circumcised penis is the norm, so the word UNcircumcised indicates an "uncut penis" is deviating from that norm. Instead, I try and use intact, or take the long way around and include the actual word "foreskin" in what I am saying.

                  Similarly, since belief in god was so pervasive and well embedded in our language, the word atheist was a shorthand way to say one didn't believe in god. But that word, implies, as you say in your definition, that one BELIEVES there is no god. But that is, for me at least, a distortion, an artifact of the convenience of using that word, atheist. Easier and more efficient to communicate perhaps, but as you have so kindly pointed out, incorrect for at least some atheists.

                  My view is actually very similar to yours, I think. And I was also raised Catholic. The nuance that sets us apart, perhaps, is that as far as I can see, the question of if there could be a god has been pretty well debunked over and over, by many lines of evidence, so I feel no need to ponder it much or keep the possibility in my world view.

                  Regards
                  Last edited by greg_b; 10-17-2021, 10:14 AM.

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                  • #39
                    Regardless of what one believes, perhaps we may find our answers in death after we die.

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                    • #40
                      Religion is not always a bad thing. It often builds a sense of community and provides a moral framework. It gets bad when people start engaging in destructive practices like human/animal sacrifices and bloodletting rituals, or think they are superior to others because of their religion.

                      That being said, I respect anyone's religious beliefs (or lack thereof) as long as they aren't harming themselves or others because of it.

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