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  • #16
    This might be the most ignorant thread I've seen thus far. Is it so impossible to believe that someone is satisfied with something that our little echo chamber doesn't like? Why are we being so inflammatory about someone choosing their own preference to their genitals? We're not talking about infant genital mutilation, we're talking about someone who underwent voluntary foreskin removal and is chuffed with the results.

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    • #17
      I thought the discussion was pretty well-balanced, actually...from a rational perspective, the idea of having part of your penis surgically removed to make you happier is kind of wacky.
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      • #18
        [QUOTE=mattsprofile;n18597]This might be the most ignorant thread I've seen thus far. Is it so impossible to believe that someone is satisfied with something that our little echo chamber doesn't like? Why are we being so inflammatory about someone choosing their own preference to their genitals? We're not talking about infant genital mutilation, we're talking about someone who underwent voluntary foreskin removal and is chuffed with the results.[/QUOTE]

        You really don't know what you're missing. I was cut as an adult and I KNOW. The difference is so huge, and not in a good way. Every day comfort alone is enough to show anyone the light. Problem is that the doctors here in the U.S. flat out lie to patients and omit critical information that would otherwise convince people NOT do it. Had I been able to research the truth back then, I would never have had it done. These people are in denial and (subconsciously) don't want to face the truth because it hurts inside so much.
        Unless YOU actually know exactly what you're missing from experience, you have no place bashing this thread.

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        • #19
          [QUOTE=parsecskin;n18604]

          You really don't know what you're missing. I was cut as an adult and I KNOW.

          [/QUOTE]

          You know how you feel, you don't know how someone else feels.

          I am all for voluntary and informed adult circumcision. You were misinformed, and you were coerced into it. That's too bad for you, I'm sorry that happened. But some people just want to be circumcised. Some people want to get tattoos on their skin, some people want to pierce their genitals, some people want to stretch their earlobe, some people want to stretch their scrotum, some people want synthetic material placed inside of them, some people want to fork their tongue. It's their body, it's their choice. At what point does a body modification become irrational? Maybe you don't like it and wouldn't do it, but they did it because they do like it. Maybe they'll decide they made a mistake, but maybe they won't. As long as they know all the pros and cons, why would you be morally opposed to them doing these things to themselves?

          You can argue that maybe people are under the illusion that circumcision improved their life, but your whole life is an illusion. Your whole life is the amalgamation of social influences. It's just as insane to sit at a desk and punch a little plastic thing to make things appear on the screen in front of you. Humans were never meant to do that. But it makes you happy and it improves your life, so you do it. Some people would tell you that you're a product of a society whose morals are misplaced and you could enjoy greater happiness if you abandoned technology. Maybe they're right, but you're not going to change your mind. And you're going to tell some guy that his body modification was bad, but he's happy with it and not going to change his mind.

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          • #20
            I pretty much agree with mattsprofile. I'd add that some guys were circumcised due to disease and/or intractable conditions with their foreskin. They had pain, infection, advancing symptoms, scaring, etc. They had no choice but to have circ as the only treatment left, and that puts them in a category of their own. I'm sure they'd say they prefer it to what was happening before.

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            • #21
              [QUOTE=mjwise;n18598]I thought the discussion was pretty well-balanced, actually...from a rational perspective, the idea of having part of your penis surgically removed to make you happier is kind of wacky.[/QUOTE]

              There are thousands of people who claim to do something in your name because they love you. In fact, they do it because they love themselves more, you only serve as a bridge to the delusional reasons they have in their minds. The problem is that, we can talk, but this is only talk, as we talk many are getting circumcised across the glob. The contradiction here seems awful enough to make you hate this kind of behavior, cutting the foreskin takes a few minutes, restoring the foreskin takes no minutes and no efforts, because once it's gone, that's all what you have.

              I'm going to start my mission now of cutting fingers, I don't like fingers too, because when you don't fold them they look unequal, though it's just a finger, right? That's their argument, that's the logic they use. This is not only wacky, but hilariously stupid.

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              • #22
                I spoke with one guy in a pro circumcision group from France.

                He got cut when he was 26 and claimed he enjoys direct stimulation of the glans. He also claims it is more aesthetically pleasing, so he feels sexier and enjoys it more.

                In addition, he also mentioned that "uncut cocks stink".

                I have no idea how true that is, but I can imagine something stinking might be a turnoff.

                Regardless, I still think it is a man's right to choose. I am only truly against circumcision of infants and children who cannot consent.

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                • #23
                  I have been cut twice in life. Once just a few days old not by choice and once at 23 by choice. When I was cut as a newborn, the doctors only took off a very little bit of foreskin. Just the tip. Literally. They took off so little, my frenulum was left intact with about 90% of my foreskin. I grew up all around the usa like this with no problems( no uti's, no problems urinating, no smegma, no bullying).

                  At around 13 or 14 I realized I was different from the majority of boys(from looking at porn. I really was never naked around other boys) and It didn't bother me one bit. Up to about 21 I never gave it a second thought. Until I got curious. At this point I was really coming around to why my dick was different so I started researching and finding out about circumcision. For almost two years, I researched and dug into circumcision. I found out what it was really about and after doing so, I immediately became repulsed by the idea that a country as a whole would think it is OK to do this to a human body, to take away something that affects a males' body for the rest of his life. It made no sense to do something so unnecessary, to alter a perfectly functioning body part with no cause or reason.

                  At this point I started to ride the intactivist train. After reading stories from men who had it done at a later age who gave varying testaments about how it desensitized or gave more pleasure after the fact, I made the decision to have it done again at the age of 23. For one reason, I wanted to know what it was like to be fully cut. For two (and the biggest argument), I wanted to be able to be on one side or the other of the argument " Does circumcision decrease sexual pleasure?"

                  I got a referral from my doctor to the local urologist (will not name), and got the ball rolling. I set up an appointment with the doctor and he did an examination of the situation. He had me drop trousers and looked at what I had. He told me it definitely could be done. So he scheduled a date for the surgery. I was excited and nervous the day of surgery. I got all prepped and in pre op, they gave me a medicine to reduce the possibility of acid reflux ( which I have chronically). They told me the medicine would make me like impatient, jittery and/or agitated (which happened). So I told the nurses I didn't want to go through with the surgery. The doctor came in and talked to me and said "OK, we can leave it open if you choose to have it done."

                  I left the hospital, the same as I had 23 years previously, almost whole. I went on vacation for a few weeks and pondered the decision for the two week break. When I got home, I decided to follow through with my original decision to have it done. The day came and was in pre op again. The nurses did what they had to do to get me prepped. They gave me medicine that would knock me out within seconds. I faintly remember waking up for about 5 seconds on the table and seeing the big bright lights they use in the O.R. After that, the next thing I was waking up in recovery. I was groggy, and a bit sore under the blanket. If I remember correctly, I pulled back the blanket and seen the bandage wrapped around my penis. A bit later the nurses came in and said once I urinated, I was set to go home.

                  They told me not to worry if I urinated a dark orange the first few times, as it was a medicine they gave me, or if I peed two separate streams (yes from the same hole. Lol.) So I got up and peed. And as they said my pee came out dark orange and in two streams (which went all over the place). So I was set to leave.

                  Discharge instructions were to rest for a day or two after, no type of sex or masturbation for at least 2 weeks. I was to go back in two days to the office to get the bandages off. It was weird at the time to have a stranger taking off the bandages. Once they were off, I had my first look at my reconstructed junk. It was swollen, bruised and stitched. The doctor used dissolvable stitches which I was told would fall out by themselves in 7-10 days. Jumping forward to this timeframe, the stitches did indeed start to fall out. After 10 days, there were still some left. Without consulting the doctor, I took the liberty of pulling the rest out myself. The sensation was weird, you know when you rub your hand on velvet? Yeah, that sensation. Not pain or even discomfort.

                  After two weeks, I was in the clear to do sexual activities again. Though my first one didn't happen until after about a month, it was weird not having as much skin. Not having as much movement on my penis. But I figured I would grow onto it. Within the month after, healing was actually good. I read many times healing was harder in adults. Not for me at least. It went smooth. Swelling and bruising faded within three weeks. And as for pain (even though they gave me vicodin which I only took twice) the pain was bearable. Less than that of a toothache, believe it or not. So I was on track for a satisfied result.

                  About 2 months after, I got with my girlfriend. I was satisfied with results for about two months after that - until I started losing feeling and sexual satisfaction. Things started happening I never experienced before. I lost sensation around the scar (which I had before even with the initial circumcision scar especially around the frenulum), I started to (and still do) urinate in two streams. Time to get started peeing shifted to (and still is) around 5-10 seconds whether I had to pee really bad or not. There is a delay of 5-10 seconds until actual flow starts. My glans went from smooth and shiny, to rough and callous-like. Pleasure went from the whole sexual experience to just pleasure during orgasm.

                  There are unattractive scars running vertically along the circumcision scar where the stitches were put in.

                  A lot of times, I regret having a second circumcision done even for the sake of science. Since I had this done four years ago me and my (now ex) girlfriend had a baby boy. He was left intact and whole just as he was born, with no problems portrayed by many in the USA that intact males supposedly run into. Maybe he is a part of the minority that don't have problems. Maybe I was a part of that same minority. Or maybe it is because we take care in how to handle an uncircumcised penis and don't just dismiss it at not being normal.

                  Sorry this is so long, but I wanted to get my story out there. I wanted to explain and tell other guys be happy, proud and appreciate what you have if you are intact. Dismiss what others say and feel about it. It is your body, not anybody else's. If they don't like it, tell them to piss off. If you chose to have it done, let it be a personal choice. Reply if you have any questions, comments.

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                  • #24
                    So, are you looking into restoring? If so you came to the right place. Also when they cut you the second time did that take your frenulum?

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                    • #25
                      Probably because many people that get cut in adulthood did actually have some sort of a problem like phimosis or frequent infections so they have bad memories of that. But too bad they didn't realize stuff like that can be treated and cured without needing to cut the whole thing off. I take it the sensitivity loss takes some time also. If they are leaving their review just a few months after getting cut they haven't lost much sensation yet. Fives years later they might realize that their glans has become dried and devoid of feeling.

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                      • #26
                        I am in the same boat. I am 32 and had minor yeast infections on and off during 10 years. I went to urologist that advised me to get it cut to eliminate that issue because the creams did not help that much. I asked him if I loose sexual feelings due to circumcision and his said not realy. So I proceeded with the procedure. Two months later after the healing I decided to give it a try with my girlfriend. I can tell you that I made HUGE mistake of cutting the most pleasureble skin on the body. When they cut your foreskin you would loose about 70% of you sexual pleasure feeling. Do not believe Those idiots doctors that advise the circumcision. I feel sorry for those men that were cut at newborn age and they will never experience on what is real 100% sexual pleasure feeling. Now I’m looking at foreskin restoration methods.

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                        • #27
                          Again (for the silent readers out there), if you are intact with a history of intractable symptoms of the foreskin, and the suggested "cure" is circumcision, while that may be the only recourse, please ask how much tissue, and where exactly, will be removed. Ask for as much tissue sparing as possible. If possible, only have the symptomatic area removed, leaving everything else in place. Insist on this, and continue to insist on this. Have the approach and area spelled out specifically. Don't listen to any explanation from the provider for more than the symptomatic area being removed (unless the symptoms are second to penile cancer). Stand up for yourself, and you will thank yourself for this.

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                          • #28
                            Also I found this to be helpful for guys with phimosis [url]https://phimosisjourney.wordpress.com/[/url]
                            I've heard of guys getting cut because of "severe phimosis that wasn't treatable" but this link shows that there is no non-treatable phimosis

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                            • #29
                              [QUOTE=resto-mod;n21396]Also I found this to be helpful for guys with phimosis [url]https://phimosisjourney.wordpress.com/[/url]
                              I've heard of guys getting cut because of "severe phimosis that wasn't treatable" but this link shows that there is no non-treatable phimosis[/QUOTE]

                              Your link didn't take. The thing is, though, there [I]are[/I] intractable conditions which cause ongoing pain, grief, and an interruption in physical intimacy. And this can be due to non malignant tissue changes. To think that phimosis is the only condition involved in circ is to misunderstand what can happen with the human foreskin. It isn't bullet-proof, it's a combination of fragile tissues, "out there" in the path of stressors.

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                              • #30
                                [QUOTE=Reality;n21451]

                                Your link didn't take. The thing is, though, there [I]are[/I] intractable conditions which cause ongoing pain, grief, and an interruption in physical intimacy. And this can be due to non malignant tissue changes. To think that phimosis is the only condition involved in circ is to misunderstand what can happen with the human foreskin. It isn't bullet-proof, it's a combination of fragile tissues, "out there" in the path of stressors. [/QUOTE]

                                Sorry about the link you can still copy and paste it though, It's about a man that fixed his pinhole phimosis without circumcision. Though it's usually just a preputal opening that's too small that causes problems I know there can be other problems with the foreskin but I usually don't see any of these issues being presented in any circ arguments. What else can cause problems with foreskin?

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