2022-03-23 Idaho’s HB 675, which would have criminalized gender-affirming care for trans youth, is officially dead!

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https://interactadvocates.org/transgender-legislation-intersex/

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State legislatures across the country are introducing bills that would criminalize or restrict providing healthcare to transgender minors. What many don’t realize is that in the rush to control transgender minors’ bodies, many of these bills also include specific exemptions allowing “corrective” procedures on intersex traits.

These bills attempt to set a standard for how individuals can feel good in their bodies, and what a “normal” body should look like, in regards to sex and gender.

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Good news indeed! I was going to post a thread myself but decided it would be too political. So I'll say it here instead: Republican politicians don't give a F*** about your bodily autonomy and right to self determination.

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https://interactadvocates.org/transg...tion-intersex/
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State legislatures across the country are introducing bills that would criminalize or restrict providing healthcare to transgender minors. What many don’t realize is that in the rush to control transgender minors’ bodies, many of these bills also include specific exemptions allowing “corrective” procedures on intersex traits.

These bills attempt to set a standard for how individuals can feel good in their bodies, and what a “normal” body should look like, in regards to sex and gender.

Good. it didn't go far enough. To get this bill passed now the Republicans will have to rewrite it to ban ALL forms of genital mutilation surgeries on ANYONE UNDER 18. Parents do not belong having pedophiles with knives cut on their childrens genitals

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Good. it didn't go far enough. To get this bill passed now the Republicans will have to rewrite it to ban ALL forms of genital mutilation surgeries on ANYONE UNDER 18. Parents do not belong having pedophiles with knives cut on their childrens genitals

Don’t kid yourself. The idiots trying to push this crap through never even considered circumcision as genital mutilation. I’ve been an Idaho resident for more than 40 years and the path our uneducated, zealot leaders is disgusting. They are pounding their misguided dogma down out throats funded by small, well funded private money and are nothing more than spineless puppets voting for anything they are told to vote for - frequently without even reading the bills. Unfortunately this bill is one example of their incompetence. I’ll step off my box now 😀

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Don’t kid yourself. The idiots trying to push this crap through never even considered circumcision as genital mutilation. I’ve been an Idaho resident for more than 40 years and the path our uneducated, zealot leaders is disgusting. They are pounding their misguided dogma down out throats funded by small, well funded private money and are nothing more than spineless puppets voting for anything they are told to vote for - frequently without even reading the bills. Unfortunately this bill is one example of their incompetence. I’ll step off my box now 😀

I know, thats why its good this bill got struck down, until theyre willing to pass a General Genital Mutilation Ban they dont have the right to do shit about trans children.

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As a tax payer I don't want to pay for this ridiculous stuff of someone's gender reassignment.
if they're over 18 they can do as they will under their dime.
If they don't like what they are then that's their problem to deal with.
This has nothing to do with circumcision of which the government has no business paying for that either !

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This has nothing to do with circumcision

When the US allows male babies to be circumcised, they incidentally allow some who will come to identify as transwomen to be circumcised. Many will bemoan the fact that their genital reduction surgery has drastically diminished their prospects for a satisfactory outcome if they choose gender-affirming bottom surgery.

From a selfish standpoint, it would behoove us to join the fight for trans rights because it must necessarily improve the rights of male babies.

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When the US allows male babies to be circumcised, they incidentally allow some who will come to identify as transwomen to be circumcised. Many will bemoan the fact that their genital reduction surgery has drastically diminished their prospects for a satisfactory outcome if they choose gender-affirming bottom surgery.

From a selfish standpoint, it would behoove us to join the fight for trans rights because it must necessarily improve the rights of male babies.

Agreed. A common argument in favor of the trans movement is that the male and female genitals develop out of the same cells, and conclude from this that a trans-woman's male genitalia is in reality a clitoris EVEN BEFORE TRANSITION. If we extend this logic further, they already are cutting off parts of girls clitorises as the clitoris is simply the female counterpart of the penis. This is the equivalent of a labiaplasty or partial clitorectomy.

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As a tax payer I don't want to pay for this ridiculous stuff of someone's gender reassignment.
if they're over 18 they can do as they will under their dime.
If they don't like what they are then that's their problem to deal with.
This has nothing to do with circumcision of which the government has no business paying for that either !

Yeah but the way to do that is explicit and general rules- something like banning medicare from covering any so-called "healthcare" which the individual is incapable of consenting to- along with all cosmetic procedures. The Psychiatric Industrial Complex would have to be axed as well to make this work.

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I am going to add some stuff to this discussion.

it's crazy to think in the US an adult has to be 18 to get a tattoo, or 21 to drink because their brains aren't fully developed yet and so aren't trusted with those decisions but they let 6,7 year olds to do irreversible damage with puberty blockers.

There are many issues taking place.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/health-and-fitness/transgender-teenager-dies-vaginoplasty-surgery-goes-awfully-wrong

JAZZ Jennings and the person fro. The above link went on puberty blockers and didn't have enough penis tissue for a sex change, thats so wrong and quite common.

The evil Dr's putting young boys on blockers never explain this problem to them, and if being robbed of foreskin is such a big issue imagine being robbed or sexual maturity.

Here is the fine line of balance,

1. Children need to mature enough to be healthy no matter what choice they make.

2. Boys need to go through puberty to be healthy.

3. boys can get lazer hair removal and other gender affirming procedures after puberty.

Puberty for boys may result in a deeper voice but that is much better then not having a working penis or enough tissue for a sex change.

No matter how you look at it the current status quo is beyond flawed, if a child of 6 or 7 can decide to go on puberty blockers they should also be allowed to get tattoos, which are reversible, puberty blockers are not.

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they let 6, & 7 year-olds do irreversible damage with puberty blockers.

They don't. Those meds are used closer to puberty. Sad to say, it seems perhaps due to our high-fat diet and immersion in plastics and anti-biotics, puberty is coming earlier.

Puberty for boys may result in a deeper voice but that is much better then not having a working penis or enough tissue for a sex "change."

That seems like a judgement best made by the rational informed patient in consultation with their family and their care team.

if a child of 6 or 7 can decide to go on puberty blockers they should also be allowed to get tattoos, which are reversible, puberty blockers are not.

I agree the age of consent for a lot of things is too high. There should be a way to be granted exceptions by demonstrating competency.