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Hey guys, I'm at a point where I'm wearing my tugger for 5-8 hours a day. I'm still stuck at covering around 50-60% of the tugger body. I'm progressing but I cant get my skin cone to work as a retainer when I'm not tugging, so I bought the DTR retainer. It's a bit more complicated but it stays on even when I'm working out. When I roll my skin to the top of the bell and apply the gripper, it's a pretty tight fit. I'm still working with limited slack. There is no discomfort though. Is this kind of fit similar to packing? Should I roll my skin all the way to the top? Can you guys remember when you had little slack to work with and applying a device would fit like this?
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I would just roll as much skin as you can under the device. The goal of the retainer is to retain. The amount of tension you get from the DTR retainer (or most other retaining methods) is probably too inconsequential to lead to much in the way of skin growth. -
What DTR calls a retainer, TLC calls a Packer. Packing methods are capable of causing good growth, but the only tension you get is that which you induce during application. So there's a chance you'll settle for a less symmetrical application or one with skin wrinkling that leads to discomfort sooner than a more relaxed application (as you'd do if the tension was to be applied post application). So if you have good dexterity to wrestle that taut skin, and flexible circumstances where you can re-apply more often, then packing can be a fine way to fully restore.Comment
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Chuck made the DTR retainer to “retain” your skin and keep your glans covered while you are not actually “restoring” . The device was made for people who already were actively restoring and had enough slack to use it. We can’t restore the ridgid band that keeps an intact foreskin over the glans when the penis retracts. When you are initially restoring you will go through stages of growth. I reached a point where I had enough skin to cover my glans completely when I was sitting but when I would stand the skin would retract. The retainer solves this particular issue during your restoring journey. Once you start restoring and have your glans covered continuously you will regain A LOT of sensitivity. This will happen rather quickly. Once you regain the sensitivity you have never known because you were cut you WILL NOT be able to walk around with your glans uncovered because it’s not going to feel good. You are going to have to wear something to keep it covered at all times. The DTR retainer keeps you covered PERFECTLY. The retainer is low profile and fits so well you won’t even know you are wearing it after you start using it everyday. “Packing” refers to adding length to the retainer via a nylon screw and “spacers”. This actually exerts force against the head of your penis and creates a pull effect that is static. You essentially “pack” your restoring foreskin and use the retainer to keep the skin pulled forward. This creates the tension for growth. I switched to packing exclusively back in 2013 when I met my then-to-be wife because it’s a faster and less obtrusive way to restore all day while still going to work and doing normal things. I have restored exclusively with the DTR device since 2007. I am currently able to pack a 3 inch stack with the retainer and have a moderate tension. I am fully restored and do not need a retainer to keep my foreskin from retracting anymore. I am currently 1/3 covered when fully eeect and will continue to restore until I am 80-90 percent covered when fully erect. I just found this forum after receiving an email from Ron announcing his movie spot in the Netflix documentary. I’ll eventually post pictures and share my expirience with everyone here. I started with T-tapes while I was in college and have used every method and numerous devices on my restoring odyssey. Once you make the decision and stick with it you will absolutely LOVE the end result. The picture i included is the packer I currently wear that I purchased from Chuck years ago.Comment
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