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  • Does retaining influence the shape of the new skin?

    I've pondered this for quite a while, and the more I think about it, the more it makes sense. I know that it is impossible to "train" existing skin to stay in place, but it seems like it would be possible to "mold" new skin to fit a desired shape. When cells divide, they do not grow in any specific direction. The skin simply expands at the tension site and happen to cover the shaft of the penis and form a tube because that is where they sit. If one were to tug at the very "tip" of the tube and place that area under a slim conical or cylindrical mold, it seems logical that new cells would be tightly constrained, and the newly grown skin would have no choice but to fit the shape of its container and eventually develop a tighter pucker. This is just some hypothesis I've been thinking about for a while, and I don't currently have enough coverage to regularly retain and test this out. Any thoughts?

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    No. It doesn't. In fact don't even bother retaining until you have enough skin to do so easily with an O-ring. It will be very uncomfortable de keratinized and exposed with no protection. Kind of like sticking your finger in your eye.

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    • #3
      Nope retaining won't shape the skin tube, but if wearing a device that fits well will avoid "over-stretching" your growing foreskin and having it be a little more loose than necessary. I will sometimes get out of the shower and I can see my new prepuce start to pucker when I'm super turtled and I'm don't even have full flaccid coverage yet. The muscles in the foreskin will help it taper, not always as good as an intact foreskin but it will help nonetheless.

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      • #4
        Oh boy! Reality's gonna freak out! Again.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by reenigne95 View Post
          I've pondered this for quite a while, and the more I think about it, the more it makes sense. I know that it is impossible to "train" existing skin to stay in place, but it seems like it would be possible to "mold" new skin to fit a desired shape. When cells divide, they do not grow in any specific direction. The skin simply expands at the tension site and happen to cover the shaft of the penis and form a tube because that is where they sit. If one were to tug at the very "tip" of the tube and place that area under a slim conical or cylindrical mold, it seems logical that new cells would be tightly constrained, and the newly grown skin would have no choice but to fit the shape of its container and eventually develop a tighter pucker. This is just some hypothesis I've been thinking about for a while, and I don't currently have enough coverage to regularly retain and test this out. Any thoughts?
          We see body parts conforming to the shape of constraints all over the place. I'm not aware of any effort to quantify the degree of restraint needed (amount of stress, hours per day) to see this effect. But sure, it makes sense.
          -Ron Low
          Service@TLCTugger.com
          847 414-1692 Chicago

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          • #6
            Here's a picture to give a visual idea of what I'm talking about.



            The red area represents tissue that has been tugged on, which is ideally the very foremost portion of the skin tube. Since this is merely a cross section, this area is a ring that completely surrounds the glans. During the resting period, new cells would form in that red ring, and due to the conical shape of the glans and retaining cone, the new growth would form a ring that is slightly smaller in radius than the previous foremost part of the skin tube. The main purpose of wanting to reduce the radius is not to cause phimosis, but to make the skin require more stretch to retract behind the glans. Again, this is all just a hypothesis. If skin growth does not work like this, I'd like an explanation as to why, and understand what's happening "under the hood" so to speak.

            Originally posted by parsecskin View Post
            Oh boy! Reality's gonna freak out! Again.
            So what? I welcome his input, also.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by reenigne95 View Post
              The red area represents tissue that has been tugged on
              I think for most of us, all the skin tube gets tugged on, and so all will expand. And part of solving this comes from the recognition that even non-tuggers experience cell-divisions at a "background" rate. Tugging increases the arrival rate of new cells so it exceeds the loss rate from surface cells sloughing off.
              -Ron Low
              Service@TLCTugger.com
              847 414-1692 Chicago

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              • #8
                So this is only my second week of tugging. Lucky for me I was cut loosely. I am starting at the CI-3 and have about 40% FEC. I have been tugging 8 hours a day. 6:15-10:15 and 10:45-2:45. I wear the my skin cone the rest of the time. I have enough skin to completely cover my gland at all fallacid sizes. So the cone keeps the end closed 15 hours. Side note. ( I adjust the cone to where I have about 100% coverage so my nocturnal erections will tug on the skin 4-5 times a night. Took a few nights to set it up right, so the discomfort did not wake me.) I have noticed that when I get into the shower in the mornings the skin retains that shape for a while. Maybe 2 minutes before the gland pushes it way back out. I quickly wash the area and put the cone back on. I suspect that as I have more skin or less tension pulling it back it will stay longer. I want to end with enough to have about a half inch over hang. Once there I was going to start holding closed with a band and push the cone on for tapper. Not sure if it will work and will be years before I know. I suspect that as long as you are releasing the form regularly it will remain loose so the form will have to be after all tugging is done IMO you will have to wear this close to 24-7 for some time so the cells divide into the shape.

                Travis

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by wtaddington View Post
                  So this is only my second week of tugging. Lucky for me I was cut loosely. I am starting at the CI-3 and have about 40% FEC. I have been tugging 8 hours a day. 6:15-10:15 and 10:45-2:45. I wear the my skin cone the rest of the time. I have enough skin to completely cover my gland at all fallacid sizes. So the cone keeps the end closed 15 hours. Side note. ( I adjust the cone to where I have about 100% coverage so my nocturnal erections will tug on the skin 4-5 times a night. Took a few nights to set it up right, so the discomfort did not wake me.) I have noticed that when I get into the shower in the mornings the skin retains that shape for a while. Maybe 2 minutes before the gland pushes it way back out. I quickly wash the area and put the cone back on. I suspect that as I have more skin or less tension pulling it back it will stay longer. I want to end with enough to have about a half inch over hang. Once there I was going to start holding closed with a band and push the cone on for tapper. Not sure if it will work and will be years before I know. I suspect that as long as you are releasing the form regularly it will remain loose so the form will have to be after all tugging is done IMO you will have to wear this close to 24-7 for some time so the cells divide into the shape.

                  Travis
                  Additionally you will likly have to use the same method as a retainer like in dental braces. Ever so often, you put the retainer on to make sure nothing is moving. Maybe every night. But at least you won’t have to worry about it during the day. Of course, wearing just the elastic band on the overhang all the time is not a big deal either.

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