Retaining cone won't stay on

[Rizza]

Hey so I got the tlc-x yesterday and after 15 or so attempts finally figured out how to get a proper application. The videos make it look a lot easier..

Anyway, problem is the retaining cone is kinda loose and wobbly after application and the smallest bit of outwards force pushes it off. I can't even sit or walk or anything without it falling off. I saw that one member here is using a rubber grommet placed at the top of the retaining cone / underneath the collet to keep it in place. How is something like that not included? I have no idea how the retaining cone is supposed to stay on without something like that.

Is anyone else having this problem? I'm not sure what else I can do differently.

[admin]

Hey so I got the tlc-x yesterday and after 15 or so attempts finally figured out how to get a proper application. The videos make it look a lot easier..

Anyway, problem is the retaining cone is kinda loose and wobbly after application and the smallest bit of outwards force pushes it off. I can't even sit or walk or anything without it falling off. I saw that one member here is using a rubber grommet placed at the top of the retaining cone / underneath the collet to keep it in place. How is something like that not included? I have no idea how the retaining cone is supposed to stay on without something like that.

Is anyone else having this problem? I'm not sure what else I can do differently.

Thanks for your note. With any TLC device that uses a center rod, you can add a Cuff http://tlctugger.com/product/retaini...f-tlc-hangers/ to clamp the retaining cone down against the skin. I don't recommend this at all.

[Rizza]

Thanks for your note. With any TLC device that uses a center rod, you can add a Cuff http://tlctugger.com/product/retaini...f-tlc-hangers/ to clamp the retaining cone down against the skin. I don't recommend this at all.

Why wouldn't you recommend it? It seems required to me..I mean the retaining cone simply rests over the skin, so what's supposed to keep it in place? I read that people wear the TLC/TLC-X all day, even at work, yet I struggle to get the retaining cone to stay in place even when lying down. It always pushes itself off over time...or if I move around a bit then it gets knocked loose and falls off.

I've applied the TLC-X exactly as the videos shows (with slightly different end result as I have just begun restoration, though my skin does cover around 3/4 of the tugger body when first applied) so I'm really at a loss here.

[parsecskin]

The cuff Ron mentions increases the clamping pressure considerably. I have devised a rubber grommet that does not do this. See pics

[BubbleTeddy]

I just started tugging a few weeks ago, and I quickly found out that the only way I can use the tlcx is without the pusher and rod. What worked for me was to use a strap and use the tlcx as a TLC tugger. If you try it, hope it works for you!

[Krowwf]

The cuff Ron mentions increases the clamping pressure considerably. I have devised a rubber grommet that does not do this. See pics

Ingenious! Thanks! This should help me tremendously!

[admin]

The cuff Ron mentions increases the clamping pressure considerably. I have devised a rubber grommet that does not do this. See pics

The TLC Cuff provides exactly as much clamping pressure as the user sets up to apply.

[youssefb]

although some people have not advised me to do so, i actually find that using a hairband (i.e. "scrunchie") or thick rubber band around the space between the retaining cone and the actual metal piece works perfectly for me. i couldn't find the right size grommet. it is a bit difficult to apply at first, but now it's second nature to me. i hope this helps.

[admin]

Why wouldn't you recommend {clamping}? It seems required to me..I mean the retaining cone simply rests over the skin, so what's supposed to keep it in place?

Sorry for your frustration. I stopped experimenting with cone geometry once the device worked for me. It holds on fine as is.

I don't recommend clamping because it can apply forces that crimp off blood flow. So can regular retaining with such a restraint.

Feel free to post a video of what's happening in your case. Vimeo.com allows videos to contain nudity and to be marked private.

[parsecskin]

although some people have not advised me to do so, i actually find that using a hairband (i.e. "scrunchie") or thick rubber band around the space between the retaining cone and the actual metal piece works perfectly for me. i couldn't find the right size grommet. it is a bit difficult to apply at first, but now it's second nature to me. i hope this helps.

The grommet pictured was actually a little too thick and I had to grind it down with a belt sander until it was the right thickness. What you are looking for is that when the device is under external tension, the grommet should float a little therby not incresing the clamping pressure at all. Best thing is they only cost about $1 or less.