I think I need a device, but which one?

[jnewton]

Hi there. I was hoping to get some advice about the TLC tugger.

I've only recently started to tug using the T-tape method. By recently started, I mean that I've only been doing it for a little over a week. What's crazy is that I think I can already see some subtle results. The skin seems looser and when very flaccid the skin bunches up just a little more than it used to. This is amazing to me. Very encouraging.

Anyway, the tape methods seem to have a lot of drawbacks. The biggest drawback is the fact that the tape can't be removed temporarily and then put right back on. There is a building next to the one where I work that has a pool that I like to go do a few laps in right after work 2-3 days a week. Well, if I want to do that I have to remove the tape, so I haven't done it all this time. Also, the adhesive residue is super annoying and hard to get off. I don't want to have to go through that process every day. And I have to get hard right after taking a shower in the morning to apply the tape and sometimes it's not so easy by myself. Lastly, my girlfriend is hating the fact that my penis is out of commission for so long and we can't just fool around whenever the mood strikes us. In summary, the tape is a major pain to deal with.

I thought I didn't have enough skin to use a tugger, but I'm starting to think that I actually do because I can push the head in far enough to be covered entirely with skin although it looks like it got chopped off or something. But, looking at the TLC tugger website I can't decide if I should get the original version or the TLC-X. It seems to me that I should probably start with the original, but maybe I need that pusher to keep the head pushed into the skin.

I'd like to know if the parts for the original and X are the same except for the spacers, ie I would buy the original now and then later buy the pusher and some spacers and it'll be the same thing.

Which product is better for the beginner?

Thanks.

[jnewton]

Oh! I also saw on the TLC website what I think everyone needs to use, the Traction Rig. Or, it's at least what I think would be best for me. It's exactly what I was picturing to prevent pulling on abdomen skin and only pulling on shaft skin. I couldn't find it for sale on the site. Is there a link for this?

[NITRO]

I am just using the TLC-X right now with spacer discs (added later) which would be the same procedure as you would be doing. Works for me. I used no products before and jumped right into the TLC-X from doing nothing prior.

[admin]

the tape can't be removed temporarily and then put right back on. There is a building next to the one where I work that has a pool that I like to go do a few laps in right after work 2-3 days a week. Well, if I want to do that I have to remove the tape, so I haven't done it all this time.

Your methods have to fit into your life. If I as at the pool every day, I'd do my tape application right after that and wear it until the next day just before the pool.

looking at the TLC tugger website I can't decide if I should get the original version or the TLC-X.

See this page about that choice: http://tlctugger.com/tlc-tugger-or-tlc-x/

maybe I need that pusher to keep the head pushed into the skin.

The Pusher lets you get extra inner side tension without compromising on the application roll-over point. To add inner-side tension with the simple TLC Tugger you would get slightly erect before application, which shifts the induced roll-over point closer to the glans.

I'd like to know if the parts for the original and X are the same except for the spacers, ie I would buy the original now and then later buy the pusher and some spacers and it'll be the same thing.

Nope. No parts in common. Sorry.

Watch the demo videos http://tlctugger.com/instructions/ to decide which fits your life and goals.

[Science Monk]

I've only recently started to tug using the T-tape method. By recently started, I mean that I've only been doing it for a little over a week. What's crazy is that I think I can already see some subtle results. The skin seems looser and when very flaccid the skin bunches up just a little more than it used to. This is amazing to me. Very encouraging.

If you think you have already seen signs of progress using the T-tape method, I would stick with it for the time being. It often takes guys a lot of fiddling before they start to see any sort of progress. If you are magically seeing progress right off the bat, I wouldn't mess with that success, in spite of the inconveniences of the T-tape method.

T-tapers often see rapid progress in the first three months of restoration. After that, progress plateaus off and becomes much slower. No one knows why this three month grace period has been experienced by so many T-tapers. I went from just a bunching up of skin behind the glans to almost full flaccid coverage in just 3 1/2 months. Once you see progress is possible, it makes everything so much easier psychologically.

It so happens that changing methods is one way of breaking a progress plateau. After your three month grace period of rapid T-tape progress might be a good time to start using another method like the TLCtugger.

David
World As Monkey Island

[Science Monk]

Regarding wearing a T-tape in a locker room, you might be interested in my previous post here, under the Topic "Hockey locker room, retainer?"

https://foreskinrestoration.vbulletin.net/forum/general-restoration-discussion/7366-hockey-locker-room-retainer?p=7562#post7562

David
World As Monkey island

[jnewton]

I am just using the TLC-X right now with spacer discs (added later) which would be the same procedure as you would be doing. Works for me. I used no products before and jumped right into the TLC-X from doing nothing prior.

Thanks for the reply. This is good to hear. I think I want to jump right into a tape free method.

[jnewton]

Your methods have to fit into your life. If I as at the pool every day, I'd do my tape application right after that and wear it until the next day just before the pool.

That's a good idea, but the pool thing wasn't the only reason I want to get rid of the tape. The tape is just too much of a hassle to deal with every single day. At first I was cool with it, but the adhesive removal is just killing me. And I don't want to skip tugging all weekend.

See this page about that choice: http://tlctugger.com/tlc-tugger-or-tlc-x/

The Pusher lets you get extra inner side tension without compromising on the application roll-over point. To add inner-side tension with the simple TLC Tugger you would get slightly erect before application, which shifts the induced roll-over point closer to the glans.

Nope. No parts in common. Sorry.

Watch the demo videos http://tlctugger.com/instructions/ to decide which fits your life and goals.

That's unfortunate that the parts don't match. I was looking more closely at them and I see why now.

If it was my thinking that eventually I would get a TLC-X and others have said they started with that, then I might as well start with that too.

I really appreciate your help and advice here (and for developing these products, of course).

[parsecskin]

If you think you have already seen signs of progress using the T-tape method, I would stick with it for the time being. It often takes guys a lot of fiddling before they start to see any sort of progress. If you are magically seeing progress right off the bat, I wouldn't mess with that success, in spite of the inconveniences of the T-tape method.

T-tapers often see rapid progress in the first three months of restoration. After that, progress plateaus off and becomes much slower. No one knows why this three month grace period has been experienced by so many T-tapers. I went from just a bunching up of skin behind the glans to almost full flaccid coverage in just 3 1/2 months. Once you see progress is possible, it makes everything so much easier psychologically.

It so happens that changing methods is one way of breaking a progress plateau. After your three month grace period of rapid T-tape progress might be a good time to start using another method like the TLCtugger.

David
World As Monkey Island

Yes David, you're absolutely right! Your skin gets so used to one method that it just plain stops responding. About a month and a half ago I realized I had hit a plateau at CI 3.5 so I started doing a lot of manual 2 and 3 in addition to my device, cyclically with more breaks in between, and lo and behold my progress is now rolling full steam ahead! The good thing about manual methods is that you have much more skin exposed to tension. Typically that skin that is always trapped in the device which doesn't get much tension, if any. Sometimes a longer break of about a week makes a big difference too.

[jnewton]

If you think you have already seen signs of progress using the T-tape method, I would stick with it for the time being. It often takes guys a lot of fiddling before they start to see any sort of progress. If you are magically seeing progress right off the bat, I wouldn't mess with that success, in spite of the inconveniences of the T-tape method.

T-tapers often see rapid progress in the first three months of restoration. After that, progress plateaus off and becomes much slower. No one knows why this three month grace period has been experienced by so many T-tapers. I went from just a bunching up of skin behind the glans to almost full flaccid coverage in just 3 1/2 months. Once you see progress is possible, it makes everything so much easier psychologically.

It so happens that changing methods is one way of breaking a progress plateau. After your three month grace period of rapid T-tape progress might be a good time to start using another method like the TLCtugger.

David
World As Monkey Island

Well, hmmm. That is quite interesting.

And I don't know if it's actual progress progress. I think it's just my skin loosening up due to the pulling, which I understand is the first step before the skin actually starts growing.

Your post is giving me second thoughts about giving up on the tape, though.

Full flaccid coverage in 3 1/2 months? That sounds too good to be true.

Gah, but it's just sooooo inconvenient.