Hello - question regarding circumcision

[Shaver933]

if it is a girl, would she opt for the same?

Obviously not, but has that ever stopped someone?

And when the obvious comparisons are made on bodily autonomy - specifically to abortion - she's on the complete other side of the issue.

The only reason circumcision isn't treated as a crime is because it's mostly being done to men. Sadly, the same as several other issues.

[greg_b]

Obviously not, but has that ever stopped someone?

And when the obvious comparisons are made on bodily autonomy - specifically to abortion - she's on the complete other side of the issue.

The only reason circumcision isn't treated as a crime is because it's mostly being done to men. Sadly, the same as several other issues.

I think there is more to it than that it is done to men. The medical community expends great effort to push the false idea that the foreskin has no value, indeed, listening to them, it is a liability. they discount any evidence to the contrary, and take great pains to push the false idea that babies don't feel pain, are not traumatized by the pain, etc. They also push the false idea of circumcision having benefits that is clearly biased, such as protecting against UTIs, and protecting against contracting STDs if you choose to have unprotected sex. And they unprofessionally will often talk about the psychological trauma to the child if he looks different, ignoring the fact that he looks different in many other ways, non of whish apparently will traumatize him.

Just listen to the words often used: "it is just a little snip", instead of saying we are causing unbearable pain without any good way to reduce the pain.

Without all of that propaganda and fearmongering, you would be having a much easier time with this discussion. So keep that in mind, I suggest that is the big part of the problem, not that it is done to men.

[Shaver933]

I don’t wish to divert the subject. I’m merely saying if the one variable were changed, and women were having breast implants at birth, or just getting their ears pierced, it would be a culture war sort of topic. I’m not denying there’s other propaganda and disinformation out there. Circumcision is a money maker.

[z726]

I don’t wish to divert the subject. I’m merely saying if the one variable were changed, and women were having breast implants at birth, or just getting their ears pierced, it would be a culture war sort of topic. I’m not denying there’s other propaganda and disinformation out there. Circumcision is a money maker.

It's actually fairly common among Latin cultures to have a baby girl's ears pierced. In recent decades, it's become more popular in the US, and as you might expect, a topic of growing controversy. Just Google the phrase, "infant ear piercing". People trivialize it, and seem to easily minimize the pain it causes or the risk of infection it brings.

If you were having a girl in some other country, perhaps you'd be pressured into that

[Nthehood]

Body modification without ACTUAL medical reason is, in my opinion imoral. Modifying someones body for looks, cultural pressures or perceived hygiene on someone before they are able to speak for themselves are a some examples.