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    Whether you were a victim of your own foolish decision or one made by society/parents, I sympathize with you.
    My name (not really) is Kan, around 24 years old and I've got "major" circumcision problems.

    A little bit about my condition. Definitely CI-1. Shaft skin is very tight, scrotum gets pulled up, which looks ridiculous. And I fear (or hope?) that my strong downwards bent (while erect) may be caused because of my tight skin.
    I am hoping that, if I should manage to restore some foreskin, my scrotum and bending problems may be somewhat reduced, what do you guys think? Will it have any influence at all?
    I've been circumcized for probably around almost 20 years. was a small kid when I got my most precious mutilated and everyone in my family and surrounding were all so happy and partying, literally. Ironic how messed up that is.

    AND VERY IMPORTANT.
    I can't wait to get started!
    I want to do method 2 of manual tugging.
    http://www.restoringforeskin.org/pub...gging/method-2

    However, the second picture irritates me. Why is he grabbing with one hand above his circumcision scar and with the other hand underneath?
    I fear that if I were to do that, my scar will get teared/ripped. Shouldn't one hand be at the beginning of the shaft and the other directly underneath the scar? so that the skin below it gets pulled up?

    I'll start my journey once I get an answer so that I don't hurt myself

  • #2
    Hi I was kinda uncomfortable with your title. Well you reminded me its the sad truth unfortunately

    Gentle tension is the key to restoration. This is a long process, there is no need to rush...results are to be seen in months not days. KOT!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by kan View Post
      Whether you were a victim of your own foolish decision or one made by society/parents, I sympathize with you.
      My name (not really) is Kan, around 24 years old and I've got "major" circumcision problems.

      A little bit about my condition. Definitely CI-1. Shaft skin is very tight, scrotum gets pulled up, which looks ridiculous. And I fear (or hope?) that my strong downwards bent (while erect) may be caused because of my tight skin.
      I am hoping that, if I should manage to restore some foreskin, my scrotum and bending problems may be somewhat reduced, what do you guys think? Will it have any influence at all?
      I've been circumcized for probably around almost 20 years. was a small kid when I got my most precious mutilated and everyone in my family and surrounding were all so happy and partying, literally. Ironic how messed up that is.

      AND VERY IMPORTANT.
      I can't wait to get started!
      I want to do method 2 of manual tugging.
      http://www.restoringforeskin.org/pub...gging/method-2

      However, the second picture irritates me. Why is he grabbing with one hand above his circumcision scar and with the other hand underneath?
      I fear that if I were to do that, my scar will get teared/ripped. Shouldn't one hand be at the beginning of the shaft and the other directly underneath the scar? so that the skin below it gets pulled up?

      I'll start my journey once I get an answer so that I don't hurt myself
      Obviously the idea is not to pull so hard to cause skin tears! I use devices, not manual methods, so it's hard for me to give advice other than if it hurts, stop doing it.
      Visit my restoration progress journal.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by kan View Post
        Whether you were a victim of your own foolish decision or one made by society/parents, I sympathize with you.
        My name (not really) is Kan, around 24 years old and I've got "major" circumcision problems.

        A little bit about my condition. Definitely CI-1. Shaft skin is very tight, scrotum gets pulled up, which looks ridiculous. And I fear (or hope?) that my strong downwards bent (while erect) may be caused because of my tight skin.
        I am hoping that, if I should manage to restore some foreskin, my scrotum and bending problems may be somewhat reduced, what do you guys think? Will it have any influence at all?
        I've been circumcized for probably around almost 20 years. was a small kid when I got my most precious mutilated and everyone in my family and surrounding were all so happy and partying, literally. Ironic how messed up that is.

        AND VERY IMPORTANT.
        I can't wait to get started!
        I want to do method 2 of manual tugging.
        http://www.restoringforeskin.org/pub...gging/method-2

        However, the second picture irritates me. Why is he grabbing with one hand above his circumcision scar and with the other hand underneath?
        I fear that if I were to do that, my scar will get teared/ripped. Shouldn't one hand be at the beginning of the shaft and the other directly underneath the scar? so that the skin below it gets pulled up?

        I'll start my journey once I get an answer so that I don't hurt myself
        1. Nobody here knows if expanding shaft skin will affect the downward curve of your penis. All anyone can do is guess. It may not affect it at all, or it may only affect it a little. Who knows. You'll have to put the time into it to see for yourself.

        2. Same for your scrotum. There are many anecdotal reports that expanded shaft skin, when you've grown enough of it, can relax and perhaps allow your scrotum to hang in a more "natural" position. But a large part of where it hangs has to do with the dartos sheath under the skin, and to a lesser degree, the muscles attached to your testicles (your balls don't roll around at the bottom of the bag, they're suspended). Again, you'll have to see.

        3. As far as method 2 goes (and the odd use of the phrase "irritates me" aside), the link you provided explains why he grasps his penis at the points he chose: he wants to expand old inner mucosa as well as shaft skin. There isn't a large risk of tearing at the scar line, unless a circ is fresh (not you in this case), or you use way too much tension, in which case the tear would likely be distal to scar because mucosa is much thinner, more delicate than shaft skin. There are other manual methods, some better for a beginner, in my opinion. You can start with simply pinching some shaft skin between thumb and forefinger and pulling, forward, or out (or back, for that matter).

        4. As nomad said, this whole thing takes year after year to see any results, so it's guaranteed that you will find a method and a schedule that suits you, if you decide to go on with this process.

        And just because it was mentioned, like nomad I'm not happy with the term "victim"; doesn't really apply to most of us. "Victim" is a word that people choose to use to describe themselves; it's a chosen and essentially artificial state, in other words. So, it's use irritates me

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        • #5

          Thanks everyone, I guess the title wasn't much of a well thought choice.
          I would change the title if I could, But I can't, sorry.
          And I didn't hurt myself yet, as I have yet to start, but thanks for warning me.

          Originally posted by Info View Post
          3. As far as method 2 goes (and the odd use of the phrase "irritates me" aside), the link you provided explains why he grasps his penis at the points he chose: he wants to expand old inner mucosa as well as shaft skin. There isn't a large risk of tearing at the scar line, unless a circ is fresh (not you in this case), or you use way too much tension, in which case the tear would likely be distal to scar because mucosa is much thinner, more delicate than shaft skin. There are other manual methods, some better for a beginner, in my opinion. You can start with simply pinching some shaft skin between thumb and forefinger and pulling, forward, or out (or back, for that matter).
          All of that sounds rather complex to me Just goes to show that I need to work on my reading comprehension. Thanks.

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          • #6
            Hello, Kan. I actually like your title addressing us as Victims. Society does not consider us victims which is very sad, so it is nice for me to be called a victim.

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            • #7
              Nobody set out to victimize me. They did, at the time, what they thought was right and inadvertently robbed me of a totally natural human experience of an intact body which was how God designed it. Without my consent, on that day, I inadvertently became a victim of a practice that has gone on for years. My son is not circumcised and now that he is 21, he can decide for himself what he wants. I doubt that he even thinks about this kind of disfigurement.

              I agree with the above comments that you should take it slow. Without any instructions or devices I have, over several years, managed to stretch my foreskin so that, while erect, I can pull it over my glans, plus about 1/4 inch beyond. At times, I overdid it and just left it alone for a week or two and then continued on. At the start, while erect, I could not even get the skin up onto the glans. So my advice is to do what you can without causing damage. Eventually, if you are persistent and consistent, you will see results.

              I probably would be a lot further along had I found this website, if it existed, several years ago. I have now been rejuvenated in my effort to continue my efforts to lengthen my foreskin and, a few days ago, purchased a TLC-X. This marks a new beginning for me. I KNOW that this device will produce results.

              It is my understanding that it till take some effort for you to get to the point that you have enough foreskin to put this type of device on. I am here to testify that stretching the foreskin works even for those of us who are starting out with a very taught skin while erect.

              I started by simply wrapping the area between my thumb and forefinger around the shaft, just behind the glans, while flaccid, and tensioning the skin by pulling it over the glans. When I first started, even while flaccid, I couldn't get it very far. Now, without touching it during the day my foreskin covers half of the glans. My goal is to get it to the point that it covers the whole thing plus some.

              Good luck to you and continue reading. There is plenty of good information and help on this website. Most importantly, get started and be somewhat gentle and persistent.

              Cheers!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by kan View Post
                Thanks everyone, I guess the title wasn't much of a well thought choice.
                I would change the title if I could, But I can't, sorry.
                And I didn't hurt myself yet, as I have yet to start, but thanks for warning me.



                All of that sounds rather complex to me Just goes to show that I need to work on my reading comprehension. Thanks.
                Don't worry about it, probably just as well that we can't change titles. You brought up a subject that appears on restoration forums from time to time, ie so-called victimization. That's not a bad thing. It can be thought of in this way:

                1. A restoration forum (excluding intactivism) is all about doing something about the condition you were left in. That means that the guys who choose to restore, however they saw themselves before, be it victim or simply a member of a screwed up world, can now change the status they gave themselves (or somebody else gave them). They can do this by claiming their own strength, and getting back some of what was lost. They become more functional, not passive victims, through the day-to-day act of restoration. And believe me, new guys have no idea how much you can get back; much more than you thought.

                2. Restoration forums attract a certain type of personality, unfortunately, who insist on calling themselves a "victim". They sense that restoration requires a certain self-focus, in order to begin. So they use that, and the word "victim" as a mask to hide behind, so they can vent their anger, obsess over their own psychological dysfunction (in some cases), and blame others for their own faults. These faults have little or nothing to do with circumcision. The old forum had more than its share of these. This type doesn't do anything about how they see themselves. That would be the last thing they do. They want to be a "victim". Being a passive, angry, ignorant victim serves their purpose, allows them to blame others for their own condition. But as it turns out, they aren't really a victim of circumcision, they're a victim of their own inability to move on and be functional.

                3. So you can see why the word "victim" can have a complicated meaning on forums. But the subject of victim-hood should be discussed from time to time, no argument there. It should be discussed so that the dysfunctional are shown to be who they are, so that the message of restoration isn't put into the negative light that some of these guys prefer to put it in.

                And as far as tugging goes, it really isn't complex, it's just tugging on shaft skin (and a little mucosa), however you choose to do it. And that's about as complex as it ever gets, other than leaning a few new terms.

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